New Testament Christianity and Bible Prophecy

INTRODUCTION

2008-11-27T18:47:00.000-08:00

Thursday, November 27, 2008

INTRODUCTION
30, 2008 An IntroductionDanny McDowellMy name is Dan McDowell. I have been interested in Bible prophecy since I was a young believer almost 30 years ago when I read "The Late Great Planet Earth" by Hal Lindsay. I was fascinated and hooked on the subject. I read everything I could get my hands on. Then I made a terrible mistake.I began to reference the books I read against another book - The Bible. I became frustrated so I developed a method of tolerance to enable myself to continue to feed my appetite for Bible Prophecy. I developed a "Danger List" of verses in the Bible that had caused me to become confused. My list began with Matthew 24 and Mark 13. Next on the list was II Thessalonians 2. Then came "THE BOOK OF REVELATION." I could hear deafening alarms go off in my head and the voice as a Trumpet shouting "STAY AWAY FROM THE BOOK & NOW!" So I got out quick and went back to safer ground.* Hal Lindsay* Dave Hunt* Grant Jefferies* Jack Van Impe* And OthersThings were more peaceful there. It all seemed to make sense as long as I avoided that "Other Book." From time to time I seemed to be drawn to the "Other Book" so I would muster the strength to GO IN. After a short time in "THE BOOK," I scrambled out of there looking, and feeling like I had tangled with a pack of rabid junk yard dogs and would lick my wounds and return to the safety of Hal Lindsay, for he only was worthy.I developed another mechanism for living with my fascination with Prophecy. I called it the "I'm too stupid to research this stuff for myself" mechanism. I could leave this stuff for those who truly understand. This was quite comfortable indeed and yet TEMPTATION was always at hand. The Book, THE BOOK, it was always THE BOOK, black and foreboding. Confusion and frustration was therein. Problems, problems for more than 25 years. Then came Marvin. Marvin Rosenthal and "The Pre-Wrath Rapture" and Gene Bacon "Rapture, Truth or Consequences" and others."Halleluiah," I can open THE BOOK now, no sirens or whistles, no trumpet voices, "and he shall send his angels to gather his elect from Heaven and Earth." "That's it", "That's it", It's in the Book. It's all there. I turned the table. Now I began to use THE BOOK as the authority and to weigh Hal and his friends against THE BOOK - THE BIBLE - THE WORD OF GOD - THE LOGOS and pieces came into place as the key pieces were discovered in THE BIBLE.This began a 2-year study that has been profound, enlightening and exciting at times (especially in light of events happening in the world today). I purchased air time at a local AM radio station and began to proclaim the Word of prophecy. The book of Revelation became a joy and a road map into the future. I spent many hours pouring over that most foreboding work - The Old Testament.Everything Fits..when you use the scripture to define Truth. Matthew 24 and Mark 13 is the "hub" of bible prophecy. The words of Jesus are the key to unlocking the future. It all works now. Now I can open "THE BOOK." I hope you will do the same.Revelation 20:5BTHIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTIONWARNINGIf you are weak kneed and Mamby Pamby about identifying false doctrine, paganism, and apostasy in evangelical Christianity, then THIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU! Look to others who are willing to dance around the truth. I'm tired of dancing!Buckle up. Here we go!

ESCHATOLOGY---The SEVENTY WEEKS OF DANIEL---apologetics

2008-11-27T18:45:00.000-08:00

Thursday, November 27, 2008

The SEVENTY WEEKS OF DANIEL
24, 2007 The 70 Weeks of Daniel"The 70 Weeks of Daniel"Contiguous / Unbroken“THOUGH THIS PRESENTATION DOES NOT REFLECT MY OWN VIEW, THAT THE REMAINING HALF OF THE SEVENTIETH WEEK IS A FUTURE EVENT: THIS ARTICLE CERTAINLY REPRESENTS A FAITHFUL INTERPRETATION OF DANIEL 9:26-27 AS FAR AS THAT POINT DESCRIBED AS----“THE MIDST OF THE WEEK”. AS I HAVE SAID-------I BELIEVE THAT THE REMAINING 3 ½ YEARS. [the GREAT TRIBULATION] IS A FUTURE EVENT !” I DO NOT KNOW THE AUTHOR. Danny McDowellDetermining the Starting Point for the Seventy Weeks Prophecy10a. There are four historic events to choose from;Upon the conquering of Babylon by Cyrus, King of Persia and the Medes/Persian Empire, He made a decree that God had revealed to Him that Israel should be set free of their captivity, and Cyrus decreed that whosoever would, should go up to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple to the one God YHVH.This God inspired act set off a series of four events in History by several Kings of the Medes/Persian Empire. Here are four candidate, Start-Up dates to choose from for the beginning of the "Seventy Weeks" prophecy.Candidates for Start-Up in Chronological Order539BCKing Cyruss' degree for Israel to go up to Jerusalem and build. This event is prophesied by Isaiah 44:28, fulfilled in Ezra chapter 1.516BCKing Darius the 1st of Persia's decree for the elders of Israel to build God's Temple at Jerusalem. Recorded in Ezra chapter 6.458/457BCBased on King Artaxerxes decree to Ezra to return to Jerusalem and re-establish the Law and to rebuild the Temple and the practice of the Law in the Temple. This event is recorded in Ezra chapter 7 (also see Ezra 9:9).445/444BCBased on Nehemiah's Petition to King Artaxerxes to return to Jerusalem. This event is recorded in Nehemiah chapter 2.10b. Selection 548/547BC; The DistinguishingCharacter of the Restoration of the LawOf these candidates, one is outstanding in its character in that it involves the restoration of the Law of God. Friends, all of these historic events and decrees listed above involved physical building of Jerusalem, it's walls, etc. But remember our God who has said;Psalms 127:1 (NIV)1 A Song of degrees for Solomon. Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.10c. The Spiritual vs the Purely PhysicalOne can lay bricks, build walls, and create a city, but unless the God of the Bible, His name is YHVH or Jehovah in English, is the center of its purpose then all will be in vain. And remembering that this is a prophecy where God answered Daniel's prayer for a physical deliverance from bondage,with a spiritual deliverance from sin and transgression through this Messiah who would come, then noting the fact that the 548/547BC event of Ezra's journey to reestablish the Law and to build is a wise choice.Ezra's task and mission and the decree of King Artaxerxes is found in Ezra chapter 7, and it is important also to consider Ezra 9:9.Ezra 9:99 For we were bondmen; yet our God hath not forsaken us in our bondage, but hath extended mercy unto us in the sight of the kings of Persia, to give us a reviving, to set up the house of our God, and to repair the desolations thereof, and to give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.11. The Calculations Relative to 458/457BC11a. Absence of the Year Zero on the Julian CalendarThe Jullian Calendar passes from 1BC to 1AD with no year "zero". Whenever determining time passages between years we must add one year to our calculations because of this missing year zero. The opposite is true when calculating which year we will arrive at when the time passage is known, in which case we must subtract one year. Here is an example chart to illustrate:11b. Determining Time Passage When Dates Are GivenThough we would normally expect to count 10 years of time passage between the year 5BC and 5AD, there is actually only nine years because of the missing year zero. Therefore we must SUBTRACT one year in such calculations. A working formula for known Dates dermining time would be;Determining Time Passage with Given Dates:YearBC + YearAD - 1 = Total Time Passage in Years5BC + 5AD - 1 = 9 yearsDetermining Date with Time Passage Given:YearBC + TimePassage + 1 = YearAD5BC + 9years + 1 = 5ADor from AD to BCYearAD - TimePassage + 1 = YearBC5AD - 9years + (-1) = -5BC11c. Determining A Date with a Given Time Passage:Though we would normally expect to count 10 years of time passage between the year 5BC and 5AD, there is actually only nine years because of the missing year zero. Therefore we must ADD one year in such calculations. A working formula for known time passage dermining a date would be shown above.11d. The Seventy Weeks TranslatedDaniel 9:24-2724 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.Verse 24 - Seventy "Weeks" is 490 Years:70 X 7 = 49025 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.Verse 25 part(a) - Seven "Weeks" is 49 Years:7 X 7 = 49Verse 25 part(b) - Three Score and Two "Weeks" is 434 Years:62 X 7 = 434Added together:49 + 434 = 48327 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.Verse 27 - One "Week" Remains:1 X 7 = 7Added together:(Verse 25) 483 + 7 (Verse 27)= 49011e. The 458/457BC CalculationHaving now completed the preliminary calculations we process the information given by the Angel Gabriel into the start-up date of 458BC.The Formula: YearBC + TimePassage + 1 = YearAD458/457BC + 483 + 1 = 26/27ADThis will place the Baptism of Yeshua of Nazareth at this 26 or 27AD placing His Crucifixion at approximately 30AD. Also...458 + 490 + 1 = 33AD... approximately 3 years after a 30AD crucifixion.11f. The Baptism of Yeshua Approximately 27ADThe Baptism of the Lord Jesus Christ is linked with the 15th Year of Tiberius Caesar by Luke 3:1, because this is the year that John the Baptist announced Yeshua as the Lamb of God and baptised Him.Luke 3:1Luk 3:1 Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,The fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar is often stated as beginning in 14AD, but that is a surface level assessment, only. That statement does not consider the co-regency reign of Tiberius Caesar which began 2 years earlier as is cited by early Christian writer Tertullian who documented this coregent rule.This places the baptism of the Lord Jesus Christ exactly at 27AD, perfectly fulfilling the prophecy at the end of the 69th week, exactly as does Daniel 9:25, as 7 weeks and 62 weeks = 69 weeks (483 years). Verse 25 clearly states this to be the timing of the arrival of Messiah.Daniel 9:2525 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.From: http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Def.show/RTD/ISBE/ID/8768Tiberius is mentioned by name only once in the New Testament (Luke 3:1): "the 15th year of the reign (hegemonia) of Tiberius." The question is, From what date is this to be reckoned--the date of Tiberius's co-regency, 13 (or 11) AD, or from his accession, 14 AD?From: http://www.doig.net/NTC12.htmTiberius became Caesar on August 19, 14, and in that year Dios 1 fell on October 15. Thus, his first regnal year according to the Syro-Macedonian calendar would be from Dios 1, or October 25, 13 until October 14, 14.Luke would have measured the fifteen years from that year one by non-accession, or inclusive, reckoning. Thus, the "fifteenth year" fell from October 20, 27 to October 9, 28. According to Luke's Syro-Macedonian reckoning John the Baptist began his ministry between these two dates. This falls in line with the arrival of Pontius Pilate by the autumn of 27. The earliest first Passover of Jesus' ministry would have been in 28.11g. The Crucifixion of Yeshua in 30AD as opposed to 33ADThe date of the year 30AD is considered be the correct date of the crucifixion of Yeshua of Nazareth for two reasons. One is the above determination of the date of His water baptism. Two is the fact that some do not accept the Friday crucifixion and prior to Sunday morning before the Sun arose resurrection timing. That is because the believe these words spoken by Jesus, without adulteration.Matthew 12:4040 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.The idea of a 33AD Friday afternoon to before Sunday morning idea does not fulfill these words of Christ and should be discounted. The year 30AD would provide for a Wednesday crucifixion following this time table.11h. Completion of the Prophecy... The Last WeekWith the 69 weeks of the Prophecy calculated, we have only one week remaining. So far we have place the ascent of Messiah exactly where verse 25 places Him, exactly 69 weeks (483 years) after our start up date of 458 BC. With Biblical support that will be stated in the next segment, we see Messiah Yeshua "cut off" after the 69th week as verse 26 clearly reads;Daniel 9:2626 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.Not only do our calculations perfectly align with the conclusion of week 69 but it places the 30AD crucifixion of Yeshua of Nazareth exactly in the middle of the 70th week where verse 27 states that His sacrifice caused the oblation (sacrifices in the Temple) to end. We do well remember the veil of the Temple being torn in two, upon our Saviour's death. This was an indication that the atonement for sins had been completed and no longer would an animal sacrifice be sufficient to atone for sins. Only the blood of the Messiah, the LAMB of God can now do that.Daniel 9:2727 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

ESCHATOLOGY----Matthew 23----for the JEWS ?---apologetics

2008-11-27T18:42:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

Matthew 24---apologetics
Oct 24, 2007 Matthew 24 Olivet DiscourseMatthew 24Olivet Discourse1And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25Behold, I have told you before. 26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.It is said of those who teach the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, that the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24 and Mark 13) has little to do with the church today. The claim of pre-tribulation proponents is that the events of the Olivet discourse happen (for the most part) during the “seventieth week of Daniel”.It is also taught that the entirety of the 70th week of Daniel is explicitly "synonymous" with the Day of the Lord. Since the Lord has promised to deliver the church from the Day of the Lord, then "CERTAINLY" the church must be raptured prior to the events of the Olivet Discourse.Their explanation of the events in this discourse is thus: "The Olivet Discourse relates specifically to Tribulation Saints, Tribulation Jews and others who have been LEFT BEHIND following the rapture. There is a popular fictional novel in series as well as a movie (Left behind), which deals with many aspects of this doctrine. This is the prevailing position on the Olivet Discourse in evangelical Christianity in the western church today.Let's see what the Bible says about this position.The Rebuttal"; document.write(lubid_string); //--> Tell us, when shall these things be? what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world?................It is said in pre-tribulationism that Matthew 24 and Mark 13 (the Olivet Discourse) have "little if anything" to do with the church and the church age. It is proudly proclaimed that the church will be raptured from the earth prior to the events of the Olivet Discourse and that the only Christians That will see those events are those unsaved people who were "LEFT BEHIND" at the advent of the rapture. Let's take a close look at the Olivet Discourse and see if these claims are so.Verse 3...."3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?".... Please note in verse 3, the Lord's disciples ask 3 questions; a) "when shall these things be," b) "what shall be the sign of thy coming," c) "and of the end of the world?"....We can therefore assume by the questions, that the Lord's answers will be appropriate to the questions. Jesus then begins to answer their questions FULLY.Verse 4...."4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."....Is Jesus speaking to "Tribulation Saints" in this clear directive? No! He is speaking to the Church of all ages through his vessels - The Disciples.Verse 5..."5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."... Many shall come in my name saying "I am Christ" and shall deceive many. ... Question:... How can this possibly be speaking of those "Left Behind" when the Lord says "Many will come in MY NAME and deceive many saying I AM CHRIST! Could he possibly be speaking to non-believing Jews? Those who openly REJECT the name of Jesus? - of course not. He is speaking to the Church of the ages regarding the signs of his coming!Verse 6..."6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet."...And Ye (same ye - the Church) shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, these things MUST come to pass but THE END IS NOT YET!Verse 7..."7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places."...War, Famine, Pestilence, Earthquakes!Verse 8..."8All these are the beginning of sorrows. "... This is only the BEGINNING OF SORROWS.Verse 9..."9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake."... They shall deliver YOU up to affliction. Who can Jesus possibly be speaking of here? Certainly not unbelieving Jews of the “70th week of Daniel”. He can only be speaking of the Church at large in those days. He clearly states "You will be hated of ALL NATIONS FOR MY NAME'S SAKE. Jesus can be speaking to none other than the CHURCH, the redeemed, the elect!Verse 10..."10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. "... Betrayal!Verse 11..."11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. "... False Prophets!Verse 12..."12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. "... Iniquity shall abound! (see 2nd Thessalonians, Chapter 2)Verse 13..."13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. "... He that shall endure TO THE END shall be saved. The Lord continues to speak of THE ELECT, the Church!... I Corinthians 15:22-24 "22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."... II Corinthians 1:13-14 "13For we write none other things unto you, than what ye read or acknowledge; and I trust ye shall acknowledge even to the end; 14As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus."... Hebrews 6:11 "11And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:"... I Peter 1:13 "13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"... Revelation 2:25-26 "25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. 26And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:"Verses 14-21Verse 14..."14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;and then shall the end come."... And this gospel of the Kingdom SHALL BE PREACHED in all the world… Question: If these events take place AFTER the rapture, then who may I ask will be spreading the gospel to ALL THE NATIONS? Those "LEFT BEHIND?" An absurd notion!Verse 15..."15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) ".Now he speaks to JEW and GENTILE in reference to “reading” the BOOK OF DANIEL.Verse 16..."16Then let them which be in Judaea [JEWS] flee into the mountains: "Verse 17..."17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: "... HIMVerse 18..."18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. "... HIMVerse 19..."19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! "Verse 20 ..."20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: "The reason that FLIGHT would be difficult on SABBATH is because of the SABBATH REST laws which would make it very difficult for many Jews..Verse 21..."21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. "... Note: Daniel 12:1-3 1And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."...Note: "everyone that shall be found written in the book, and many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake." There is clearly a resurrection of the righteous dead after this event of the Great Tribulation. This resurrection coincides with the resurrection of the righteous dead mentioned in Revelation 20. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION, and it comes after the tribulation of Matthew 24.Verses 22-28Verse 22..."22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. "... Those days SHALL be shortened for the sake of the elect! It is frequently said in pre-tribulation theology that the ELECT mentioned here are "Tribulation Saints," those 'LEFT BEHIND.'Let's take a Biblical look at the ELECT..The English word "elect" is taken from the Greek word "eklectos." In every verse or passage in the New Testament, the term "elect" is used to describe the Church - the Church of all ages. It is never attempted by New Testament writers to individualize the "elect" i.e. pre-tribulation elect versus tribulation "elect." The elect ARE the elect - the Church!Elect - EKLEKTOS: "The Chosen"II Timothy 2:10:..."Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory."Romans 8:33: ..."Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth."Collossians 3:12:..."Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;"Titus 1:1:..."Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;"I Peter 1:2:..."Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."Matthew 24:22:..."And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."Matthew 24:24:..."For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS REFERING TO “TRIBULATION JEWS IN THE OLIVETTE, WHEN THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT DECLARES THAT IT IS THE CHURCH , THAT IS “GOD’S ELECT” ??Note: Mark 13:20 ..."For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."EKLECTOS - WHOM HE HATH CHOSENVerse 23..."23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. "... Another admonition of false Christs. Who would be interested in knowing the identity of FALSE CHRISTS? The Jews?-------NONSENSE----- Only the elect, THE CHURCH!Verse 24..."24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. "... Note: "if it were possible, they would deceive the very ELECT."Verse 25-26..."25Behold, I have told you before. "26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. "... Another caution TO THE ELECT - THE CHURCH.Verse 27..."27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. "... The ONLY way the Son of Man will come FOR HIS ELECT!Verse 28..."28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. "... Where you see one event, you can expect another! Now Jesus will tell us exactly when the church will be taken.Verses 29-31Verse 29..."29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun and moon will be darkened and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.Mark 13:24: ..."24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, "Joel 2:31-32..."31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. " "32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. "Isaiah 13:6-13:..."6Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. 7Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt: 8And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. 9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. 11And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. 12I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. 13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger. "Revelation 6:12-13:..."12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. "THIS IS THE ONLY "DAY OF THE LORD" DESCRIBED IN ALL OF THE BIBLE!Verse 30..."30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. "...Note: "And then shall appear."Verse 31..."31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. "THE RAPTURE!THE ONLY RAPTURE! THE ONLY RAPTURE!Mark 13:27:..."27And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. "Matthew 13:39:..."39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels." "Matthew 13:47-49:..."47Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, "I Corinthians 15:51-52:..."51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. "We shall be CHANGED , then gathered by the ANGELS!Verse 32-34..."32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. "... So much for imminence!Verse 35..."35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."...The certainty of these events.Verse 36..."36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."...This day and hour is speaking of the entirety of the events of this Discourse.Verse 37-39..."37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."... Reference: NoahVerse 40-41..."40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. "...It is interesting to note that some that teach pre-tribulationism utilize these verses (40-41) as representations of the Rapture. They conveniently remove these verses from their context i.e. AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. This is a clear and flagrant perversion of this text. It is shameful to say in the least!Verse 42..."42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. "...Jesus can ONLY be speaking of the entirety of this Discourse when He says "you know not what hour YOUR LORD doth come." Note: "YOUR LORD." Can Jesus be speaking to anyone other than The Church?Verse 43-44..."43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."...Be ye ALSO Ready, like the Goodman of the house. How can we be ready if the rapture takes place without any preceding signs? Jesus warns us in these verses to "know the watch" through the events of the Olivet Discourse.I Thessalonians 5:4-6: "4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober."...I must mention that Pre-tribulationists frequently use these two verses to support the notion that Jesus will rapture His Church before the” 70th week of Daniel”, using the words "in such an hour, as ye think not - the Son of Man cometh." Isn't it interesting that in all of the Olivet Discourse, it is said that the YE's of the passage are "tribulation saints" or "tribulation Jews", then they try to use the "YE" of verse 44 of the same Discourse to say that this speaks of a pre-tribulation rapture. AMAZING!Verse 45-51..."45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49And shall begin to smite hisfellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. "...Verses 45-51 identify and separate the good servants of the Church Age from the bad servants. Note, in verse 45 the words "in due season." This speaks of the rewards that follow the works of the wise servant, which will come at the end of the age when Christ will return in the air and gathers together His elect....The evil servant will not be watching for the signs of His coming. He will suffer the wrath of God and be punished with the ungodly at the end of the age. Remember that THE DAY OF THE LORD begins AFTER the tribulation of those days.Will the gathering together of God's elect take place prior to the opening of SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION?Impossibl

ESCHATOLOGY-----COMING AS A THIEF---TO WHO ?---apologetics

2008-11-27T18:39:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Coming as a THEIF---apologetics
Oct 24, 2007 Coming As A ThiefThe Pre-tribulation ThiefDanny McDowellPre-tribulationists frequently cite scriptures concerning Christ’s “return as a thief in the night” to support their doctrine of “imminence.” The reasoning behind the use of the “Thief” passages is to establish and promote the notion that “Christ’s” coming as a thief, in an hour and day that no man knows” supports their position of Imminence. Pre-tribulationists teach that the Gathering of the Church (Rapture) has been imminent since the establishment of the church at Pentecost. Here are the verses commonly used in this position.Matthew 24:42-44 “42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”MARK 13:32-33 "32 but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the SON , but the FATHER, 33 take ye heed ,watch and pray; fo ye know not when the time is"Luke 12:40“40Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.”I Thessalonians 5:2“2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”Revelation 3:3“3Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.”Revelation 16:15" Behold I come as a thief, Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."These are, in fact, the totality of verses used in support of imminence regarding the gathering of the elect (the Church). Is this the intent of those particular passages?Let’s see what the BibleREALLY SAYS. Read On BelowThe Thief Matthew 24:44“44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”The strong admonition of the Lord in this verse is to KNOW THE WATCH! Jesus clearly uses the example of “The Goodman of the House” who “if he KNEW in what hour the thief would come, he would NOT allow his house to be entered. What possible intent could Jesus possibly have in using this parable? Is it to say that we SHOULD NOT or COULD NOT know the WATCH? This is an absurd notion indeed. Can you imagine? Pre-tribulationists would have us believe that “being ignorant of THE WATCH is a good thing. Let’s follow up with verse 44.Matthew 24:44“44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”“Be ye also ready…” Let me say this more clearly,BE YE ALSO READYCan it be truthfully proclaimed by any stretch of the imagination that Jesus is suggesting that there will be NO signs prior to his coming for the church. We must remember the context of this entire passage is in regard to “The Last Days.”Pre-tribulationists would have us believe that Jesus suddenly, and without warning, departs from his discourse and crashes into another direction, i.e. “Imminence.” This is an assault on common sense! The ONLY person who will be caught “off guard” in this passage is found in verses 48-51.He is that “EVIL SERVANT!” The “DAY” in this passage refers to the “time frame” of the passage, and the “HOUR” refers to the actual advent of the gathering of the “ELECT,” verse 31. (“31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”)Luke 12:39“39And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.”The same reasoning is applied to this verse. Pre-tribulationists simply disregard context to make their point. Let’s read the entire context.Luke 12:35-46“35Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. 41Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.”Note in verse 38 that the Lord again refers to “THE WATCH.” This is a military term and it is NEVER applied to a “momentary” point in time. It is always speaking of “FRAMES of TIME.” Anyone who has served in the armed forces can easily understand the meaning of “THE WATCH.” The “WATCH” begins at a predetermined point in time, and ends in the same way.When Jesus uses the terms “2nd watch, 3rd watch” he is referring to “time frames” with the church age. Once again Jesus points to the “Goodman of the House” as the example for “KNOWING the WATCH.” It is simply amazing to me that “WATHCING” has been interpreted as “Being caught by surprise” by the pre-tribulationists. The S-T-R-E-T-C-H of this interpretation simply boggles the mind.Note verse 41-43: “41Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.”It is said in pre-tribulationism that the Olivet Discourse is pertinent to only those “left behind” and the “Jews.” Look closely at verse 41. Peter asks the question, “Are you speaking to us ONLY, or to ALL?” Jesus’ reply answers the question unequivocally – This is meant for the Church of ALL AGES!Pre-tribulationists emphatically claim that the Olivet Discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13 does not apply to the Church of all ages since the Church will be “raptured” prior to those events, yet Jesus uses this SAME parable (the Goodman of the house) in this passage and clears up the question, “who does he speak to here.” The answer is unquestionably ALL!I Thessalonians 5:2“2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”Interesting that only the first verse of this thought is used to support imminence in this passage. Let’s take some time to develop the teaching that Paul is expounding to the Thessalonians. This is the entire context of this thought.I Thessalonians 5:1-11“1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7For they that sleep, sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.”Verse 1: the Thessalonians have already been informed of the times and seasons by Paul’s prior personal teaching to this church.Verse 3: speaks of “THEY” – the unbeliever. When “they” say “Peace and Safety” is this a sign? Of course it is, and yet the pre-tribulationists declare “there are no preceding signs.”Verse 4: “4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.” Emphatically YOU WILL NOT BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD!WHY?“4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.”Verse “You ARE THE CHILDREN of LIGHT” the light of Paul’s teaching about “THE DAY OF THE LORD.”Verse 6: “. 6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”LET US WATCH!Verse 9: “9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,” This verse is frequently used to support a pre-tribulation rapture since the apostle guarantees the church exemption from God’s wrath, which they, in error, interpret as the entire 70th week of Daniel.

ESCHATOLOGY---No one knows the DAY/HOUR----apologetics

2008-11-27T18:35:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

No One knows the day----apologetics
WebsiteOct 24, 2007 No One Knows The Day...No One Knows The Day Nor The HourDanny McDowellMatthew 24:42:It is taught in pre-tribulationism that the words of Jesus indicate that the gathering of the elect support the “THIEF” theory. Once again, we must look a little closer at the passage to understand the true meaning.“KNOW” Strongs Reference # 1492: Greek – Iedo (eedo) to now know, always in the present “perfect” tense. As opposed to;“KNOW” Strongs Reference # 1097: Greek – Ginosko (ghinoosko) “to perceive and understand.”In each and EVERY passage where it is declared “No man KNOWS the day nor the hour,” the Greek work IEDO is used. It simply means no man NOW knows the day nor hour. Each and every time this phrase is used, it is ALWAYS attached to the clear admonition to WATCH for the signs of His coming. ALL THE SIGNS!In Matthew 24 (the Olivet Discourse), the command to watch for the signs of His (Jesus) coming, both PRECEED and FOLLOW (the statement “No man KNOWS (IEDO) the day nor hour.” The Lord has made it emphatically clear, that we must KNOW (ginosko – to understand, to perceive) the watch. A simple example is this: you’re driving down a highway, there are no mile markers.You do not KNOW (IEDO) how much further to your destination until you see some identifiable markers saying “Kingdom City – 5 miles,” then you begin to KNOW (ginosko) some detail. As you drive further, you see a sign “Kingdom City – Next Exit, ¼ mile”. Now you KNOW (ginosko) even more, and so-on until you arrive at the corner of Matthew and 24th street where you make a right hand turn till you come to the crossing of 24th street and 30th Avenue.Now you KNOW (IEDO and Ginosko) where you are. This is exactly what these passages say. You must ALWAYS weigh what is VAGUE in scripture, against what is EMPHATIC. When you are confronted by this conflict, you MUST ALWAYS dig deeper. These things are NOT unknown to those educated in pre-tribulation theology. This makes them all the more accountable for their utterly false doctrine!Jesus declared to his disciples (and the Church of the Ages) – You do not NOW know, so you must watch for the signs, and as you BEGIN to see the signs, you will KNOW that more and more signs are forth coming, and then suddenly you will arrive at that LAST SIGN preceding the gathering of the elect when “THE SUN BECOMES DARK as SACK CLOTH, THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT, THE POWERS OF THE HEAVEN SHALL BE SHAKEN AND THE SON OF MAN and He shall send His ANGELS to gather His elect from Heaven (the dead who rise first) and earth (those who are alive and remain unto His coming).”Mark 13:24-31: “24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. 28Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: 29So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. 30Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 31Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.”I Thessalonians 4:13-17: “13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”Blessed will be that day when the Union of “IEDO” and “GINOSKO” comes to pass, for THEN, the rapture will become…IMMINENT

ESCHATOLOGY---REV.4 JOHN is CAUGHT UP ?

2008-11-27T18:32:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Rev.4:1----John is CAUGHT UP ?
Oct 24, 2007 John is Caught UpDanny McDowellRevelation 4:1-2:The Pre-tribulationists claim that John’s experience in Revelation 4:1-2 is representative of the Rapture of the church. The fact that John hears a voice “as the sound of a trumpet” is in reference to the “Last Trump” of I Thessalonians 4:16, “16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:” I Corinthians 15:52, “52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”Since John is caught up into heaven at the sound of this “trumpet voice” then certainly the church of all ages will be caught up at that same time.Revelation 4:1, “1After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.”This passage is commonly cited as proof that the church is caught up at this time because the 24 elders around the throne of God represent 24 elders of the church. It is also said that Revelation 4:10-11 proves that the 24 elders of heaven are the raptured church because they “cast their CROWNS before the throne,” this being the crowns that the saints receive at His coming.Also cited as proof that the church is immediately in heaven at Revelation 4:1 are the verses ofRevelation 5:2-4, “2And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.”It is said that the angelic exclamation that “NO MAN was worthy in heaven,” shows that MEN (the church) are in heaven. Verse 4 says “I wept much because “NO MAN” was worthy to open the book.” The reference to “NO MAN” is also said to be proof of the church resurrection of Revelation 4:1-2. Does the “catching up” of John in Revelation 4:1-2 represent the Rapture of the church?Let’s take a look.The RaptureThe Gathering of the ElectLet’s begin by a close examination of Revelation 4:1-2:“1After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.”It is said in pre-tribulation theology that this experience of John being caught up is representative of the rapture of the church. It is cited that John hears “the voice as a trumpet” and this could ONLY be the trump of God when the dead in Christ are resurrected. There are many problems with this notion, and yet this position is consistent with the pre-tribulationists approach to “text interpretation.”To begin – John hears a “Voice” as a trumpet. Not a trumpet! Look closely at Revelation 1:10-11,“10I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.”What does John hear at this time? THE VOICE AS A TRUMPET! Any RAPTURE HERE? Of course not. Just because John heard a “Voice” as a trumpet in Revelation 4:1-2 certainly does NOT mean that this “VOICE” is the trump of God.This is an incredible S-T-R-E-T-C-H. Can you say C-O-N-J-E-C-T-U-R-E? Secondly, John was then taken “INTO HEAVEN” through an “OPEN DOOR.” Does this sound like the gathering of the elect to you? Where do the elect GO at the sounding of the TRUMP of GOD?INTO THE AIR!The trumpet will sound. The dead in Christ will be raised. We shall be “CHANGED”I Corinthians 15:52,“52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”then we will be gathered BY THE ANGELS –Matthew 24:31:“31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”Matthew 13:39-41:“39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;”Matthew 13:49:“49So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,”And taken to meet the Lord IN THE AIR!I Thessalonians 4:17:“17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”Where? IN THE AIR!This experience of John in Revelation 4:1-2 has NOTHING to do with THE RAPTURE!The claims regarding the 24 elders of Revelation 4:4 and 4:10 are preposterous. Where do you find 24 CHURCH ELDERS in the New Testament! This is simply another outrageous claim in an attempt to create a pre-tribulation RAPTURE. Things in heaven are the reality of types and foreshadows in things of earth.The four and twenty elders of heaven are those realities of the Twenty four elders of Israel who are the TYPES of things heavenly! There is also that matter of the Old Testament Saints who were resurrected at Christs’ resurrection, and presented to the Father in the THIRD HOUR of the day as FIRST FRUITS!These are much more likely to be those TWENTY FOUR ELDERS of the Book of Revelation, since Israel did INDEED have TWENTY FOUR ELDERS.As to the references of Revelation 5:3-4, “NO MAN;” the correct interpretation from the Greek text is precise – “NO ONE” was worthy to open the scroll! No creature in Heaven or Earth!Frequently cited as proof to the resurrected church in heaven prior to the opening of the “70th week of Daniel” are these verses as well!Revelation 5:9-10:“9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”Using the term US as representing those already gathered to heaven prior to the opening of the First Seal., is proof positive to the Pre-Tribulationist, that the Church is in Heaven before the Great Tribulation begins.. Once again the pre-tribulation proponents will NEVER tell you the truth of these terms (KJV).“US.” The fact is that the word “US” translated in the KJV is actually, “THEY” in the Greek text! The passage reads “he has redeemed THEM to God” (those on earth)! “and hast made THEM (on earth) unto our God, Kings and priests.”Note in Revelation 5:8-9:“8And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us [them] to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;”It is the 24 elders who hold “VIALS” full of THE PRAYERS of the SAINTS. The 24 elders (the church ?) having VIALS FULL OF THE PRAYERS of the SAINTS [ who they say are already in Heaven]?Ridiculous! This pre-tribulation interpretation of scripture is the most prominent representation of pre-tribulation perversion in the entire doctrine.This twisted perversion of the word of God represents the desperation involved in proving this doctrine. It is more blatant than that of the pronouncement of the “Holy Spirit” as the restrainer of II Thessalonians 2.Please Note in Rev 7:13-14 , it is one of the " 24 elders "which points out the fact that-------“THESE ARE THOSE THAT CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION”The more PhD’s you hold, the more shameful it becomes to pervert the Book of Revelation! This is the Modus Operandii of Pre-Tribulation eschatologists.Revelation 22:19:“19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”These 24 elders are the heavenly representatives of types and foreshadows on earth. They hold in their hands “VIALS” containing the PRAYERS of the SAINTS on EARTH! What are these prayers? Turn the page and begin to read the events of the SEALS of the SCROLL and you will fully understand THE PRAYERS of the SAINTS!Is the Church of all ages Caught up with John at Revelation 4:1-2?IMPOSSIBLE!

ESCHATOLOGY---MILLIONS MISSING---apologetics

2008-11-27T18:22:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

MILLIONS mysteriously missing ?
Oct 24, 2007 Millions MissingDanny McDowellIt is taught in pre-tribulation doctrine that the rapture is a SECRET event and that Christians will simply DISAPPEAR from the earth. It is taught that this event will be the event that throws the world into the chaos that leads into the 70th week of Daniel and the revelation of anti-Christ. There are no scripture passages used by those who promote this notion. Will millions of people simply disappear from the earth?Let’s take a look.Millions FoundThe reason that NO pre-tribulationist cites scripture for the theory of “millions missing” is simple. THERE ARE NONE! This notion is a complete fabrication. Can you say H-O-L-L-Y-W-O-O-D?This “Secret Rapture” is certainly worthy of a modern day movie script but that’s all! The only “missing” that are described in the Bible are those ofMatthew 24:29-31:“29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”and they are FOUND in…Revelation 7:9-10:" After this I beheld and lo a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations and kindreds, and people and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;"Who are all these people?Revelation 7:13-17:“13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”There are those ELDERS again, only NOW the point to that GREAT THRONE saying “These are those who come out of GREAT TRIBULATION.”Silent Rapture?Millions Missing?IMPOSSIBLE!

ESCHATOLOGY----the Marriage of the Lamb

2008-11-27T18:21:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

The MARRIAGE SUPPER of the Lamb
Oct 24, 2007 Marriage SupperDanny McDowellRevelation 19:7-9:“7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.”It is taught in pre-tribulationism that the Church is raptured prior to the opening of the “70th week of Daniel” (interpreted as being the WRATH of GOD) and that at the arrival of the church in heaven, the wedding supper of the lamb will begin.This “WEDDING SUPPER” will last for 7 years (“the time of the tribulation”) and will conclude prior to Christ’s return to earth with His saints. It is common to hear teaching’s that relate this “7 year” feast to ancient Jewish wedding tradition in which the Bride and Groom enter their Wedding Chambers and remain there for 7 days at which time they present themselves to the world as the consummated Husband and Wife.This (they say) is the representation of a pre-tribulation rapture, followed by the “Marriage of the Lamb (7 years celebration)” and the return of Jesus (with His bride) at the end of “7 years of tribulation”.Let’s see what the Bible says.The Marriage Supper-7 Years Long Revelation 19:7-9:“7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they, which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me,These are the true sayings of God.”1) Scripture references to 7 year Marriage Feast? – NONE!2) Scripture reference to the beginning of the Marriage of the Lamb at the beginning of the “7 years of tribulation”? – NONE!3) Scripture reference to indicate that the Marriage Feast occurs in heaven? – NONE!Note that Chapter 19 follows Chapters 18, 17, 16, 15, and so on. How can it POSSIBLY be said, that the “Marriage Supper of the Lamb” will occur at the BEGINNING of the 70th week of Daniel (7 years of tribulation)? Back to Hollywood – Lights – Camera – Action – Cut! Cut! Wait a minute here! Are we talking about a Hollywood script, or the WORD of GOD?If you will notice – immediately following the ANNOUNCEMENT of the preparation of the bride, the very next thing John sees is NOT a feast! He sees “Heaven Opened, and a White Horse” and Jesus upon that horse!Revelation 19:11-13:“11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.”- and those in White Linen, Revelation 19:14:“14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.”This is the Return of Christ with His Saints, to the earth to destroy the remainder of His enemies and to set up His Millennial Kingdom ON EARTH!Where does the wedding feast take place? In heaven?--- NO!! It takes place ON EARTH, at the beginning of the Kingdom on Earth? There will be NO WEDDING SUPPER IN HEAVEN that lasts 7 years--------------------IMPOSSIBLE!

ESCHATOLOGY---the HERESY OF IMMINENCE

2008-11-27T18:17:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

The heresy of IMMINENCE
Oct 24, 2007 The Doctrine of ImminenceImminence and What the Bible Says about ImminenceDanny McDowellWords of Christ are Always in RedMatt. 24:36-3936But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Matt. 24:4444Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.Matt. 24:5050The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,Matt. 25:1313Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.I Thess. 5:22For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.Rev. 16:1515Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.Pre-Tribulation ImminenceThese are a few of the scriptures commonly used to support the pre-tribulation Doctrine of Imminence.The Doctrine of Imminence simply states that "The Rapture of the church can come at any time, on any day, in any hour and that this imminence has been so since the establishment of the church on the Day of Pentecost when the church first received the Holy Spirit”.This position teaches that ALL the apostles taught this position and that first and second century church leaders also taught this doctrine.This position holds emphatically, that there are no necessary signs preceding the Rapture. What does the Bible say? The Doctrine Of Imminence Words of Christ in RedJohn 21:1818 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.Note that Peter's death has been foretold. He will live to be of old age. II Peter 1:13-1413Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance; 14Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.Peter reaffirms the prophecy of his martyrdom. How could Peter possibly have taught an imminent rapture in his lifetime, since the Lord himself prophesied Peter’s martyrdom? How could anyone in the church believe in an imminent rapture in Peter's lifetime since the word tells us the dead in Christ will be raised FIRST! There could be no rapture prior to Peter's death. Acts 23:10-1110And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle. 11And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said,” Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome”.Could Paul have taught an imminent rapture prior to his preaching in Rome? - Impossible, since the Lord himself had prophesied this event. Paul had to preach in Rome. There could be no rapture to that prophesied event. Matt. 25:14-1914For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. 16Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. 17And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. 18But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. 19After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. ...Note the words of Jesus, "To a FAR country," and "after a LONG time." Luke 21:2424And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. ...Note "… till the times of the gentiles be fulfilled...." There can be no rapture till the gentile age has come to an end. I Thessalonians 5:1-51But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness." That day shall not come as a surprise to those who know The Signs through the word! All of the “thief” passages of the New Testament are a warning to THE WORLD-----------and NOT to God’s elect. This passage emphatically CONFIRMS that it is THE WORLD that will be taken by surprise.Hosea 3:4-54For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim: 5Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days. Hosea clearly tells us that Israel would abide "Many Days" without a prince and a sacrifice. This CLEARLY refers to "the times of the gentiles." How could there be a RAPTURE prior to the Jews return to the land? Hosea 6:1-31Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. 3Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. This can only be speaking of millennial days (and not 24 hour days) because of Hosea's previous words in 3:4-5 "Many Days." After 2 millennial days messiah would lift up the nation of Israel and in the 3rd millennial day "We (Israel) will live in His site." The return of Jesus for His church, and the SECOND HALF of the 70th week of Daniel were impossible prior to the expiration of the second millennial day, and in the third millennial day, (the reign of Christ on earth) "We (Israel) shall live in His site." Luke 10:30-3530And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, 34And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. Note the Good Samaritan (Christ) pays the innkeeper "two pence." A pence (dinarias in the Greek N.T.) equals one days wages. This reference is to two days wages - Two Millennial Days. The Samaritan is Christ Himself the wounded man is Mankind, The Priest and Levite were the Legalism and rigidity that the Pharisees had applied to the old covenant. The innkeeper was the Pastor and leader of the Church. He will reward the innkeeper More after 2 days. This passage is profoundly prophetic! John 11:66When he had heard therefore that he was sick, he abode two days still in the same place where he was. Why did Jesus remain in His place for 2 days while His dear friend Lazarus languished on his sickbed? Did the Lord care nothing for the loved ones of Lazarus who were suffering as they watched their brother drawing his last breath? They must have had someone posted at the door and watching for Jesus to come up the road. They must have imagined in their minds that any moment now He will arrive - but He didn't, and Lazarus died. Why?HE IS THE RESSURECTION AND THE LIFE! And though a man should die, yet shall he live.After two days He will lift us up, and in the third day we shall live in His sight.This event was a type and foreshadow of the resurrection of the righteous dead, AFTER TWO DAYS!The Book of Revelation was written after the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D.Could the rapture take place prior to the completion of the New Testament?The New Testament was canonized many years after the penning of Revelation. Could the rapture take place prior to that event?Could the rapture take place prior to the invention of the printing press, which made it possible for the peoples of the earth to receive the Word of God?Could the rapture take place prior to the printing of the 1611 Bible? This is a Killer for you KJV thumpers (I use it myself). The KJV was the first Bible (in English) to go throughout the earth as the British Empire colonized the world.Could the rapture take place prior to the Protestant movement?Rapture = No Pilgrims!Rapture = No USARapture = No Israel in 1948Rapture = No fulfillment of the gentile age."Jerusalem shall be trodden till the times of the gentiles comes to an end."HAS THERE EVER BEEN A RAPTURE?HAS THE RAPTURE EVER BEEN IMMINENT? IMPOSSIBLE!!!I won't spend much time in explanation of this subject. Scripture does well on it's own. It is taught in the Pre-tribulation doctrine that the rapture of the church is a SILENT event and that millions of people will simply come up missing from all over the earth.Headlines will read;“MILLIONS MISSING FROM THE EARTH”This is what the Bible says!Matthew 24:3030Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Luke 17:30 30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.Colossians 3:4 4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.I Peter 5:4 4And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.I John 2:2828And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.I Timothy 6:14 14That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:II Timothy 4:1 1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;II Timothy 4:8 8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.Titus 2:13 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;I Peter 1:7 7That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:SILENT RAPTURE??? NONSENSE !!!

ESCHATOLOGY----NOAH---to know the hour---apologetics

2008-11-27T18:14:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Days of Noah------to KNOW THE HOUR
Oct 24, 2007 The Days of NoahDanny McDowellSince there is no question as to whether or not Jesus referred to the “Days of Noah” in connection with the gathering of the elect, it seems the responsible thing to investigate the “Days of Noah.”Genesis 6:1-7:13“1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. 8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. 9These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. 16A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it. 17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. 18But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons’ wives with thee. 19And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. 20Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. 21And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them. 22Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.Chapter 71And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. 2Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. 3Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. 4For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.5And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him. 6And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth. 7And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood. 8Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 9There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 10And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth. 11In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;”Looking at “THE DAYS OF NOAH”Verse 6:1-2: “1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”Most Bible students believe the “Sons of God” to be fallen angels and that the Satanic plan of that day was to corrupt the pure seed of Adam, thereby, disrupting the plan of redemption through the “Seed of the Woman,” Christ himself.Verse 3-4: “3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men, which were of old, men of renown.”The Lord was grieved that he had ever created man. The depravity of that day exceeded even the depravity of our times. The very thought of Hybrid human beings was repulsive and disgusting to THE MAKER of MAN.Verse 5: “5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”The wickedness of man was unbearable to the point that God was “grieved in His heart.”Verse 7: “7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.”The Lord decides that He will NOT “punish man,” but that He will destroy Him altogether. Does this really sound like a relatively nice place to live as portrayed by pre-tribulationists? Spend a few moments thinking about what it really is that these people are saying. God was disgusted and sick in His heart because of the condition of man!Verse 8: “8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.”The earth was corrupt and FILLED WITH VIOLENCE!Verse 12: “ 12And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.”ALL FLESH WAS CORRUPTED upon the earth!Relative peace and safety?NONSENSE! Verse 13: “13And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”The decision is made.Verse 14: “14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.”Build an ARK!Verse 18: “18But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons’ wives with thee.”The promise of redemption.Verse 21: “21And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.”Directions for preparation. There is much criticism today, toward those who are preparing for difficult times. Was Noah less than these?Verse 22: “22Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.”Verse 7:1-5: “1And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. 2Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. 3Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. 4For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. 5And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.”This passage has been utterly perverted by many pre-tribulationists. It is said that this directive given 7 days prior to the actual flood is proof that Noah was aboard the ARK 7 days prior to wrath. Some even say it was a “Day of Grace” to allow others to repent – we’ll see!Verses 7:6-10: “6And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth. 7And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood. 8Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 9There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 10And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.” The ARK was loaded and after 7 days, the flood came!Verses 11-13: “11In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;”In the 6 hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day “the fountains of the deep were opened: IN THE SELF SAME DAY, Noah entered the Ark. On the “SAME DAY,” that the wrath of God came, Noah entered the ARK.Luke 17:26-30: “26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.”The old testament as well as the new testament, reveal the same story. Eight people entered the Ark, and eight people arrived safely after the flood. No One was “LEFT BEHIND” to be saved at a later date.Matthew 25:1-12: “1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.”Once the bridegroom comes for the bride, IT IS OVER! No one will be permitted in at a later date. NO ONE!No one knows the Day nor the Hour.Matthew 24:42:It is taught in pre-tribulationism that the words of Jesus indicate that the gathering of the elect support the “THIEF” theory. Once again, we must look a little closer at the passage to understand the true meaning.“KNOW” Strongs Reference # 1492: Greek – Iedo (eedo) to now know, always in the present “perfect” tense. As opposed to;“KNOW” Strongs Reference # 1097: Greek – Ginosko (ghinoosko) “to perceive and understand.”In each and EVERY passage where it is declared “No man KNOWS the day nor the hour,” the Greek work IEDO is used. It simply means no man NOW knows the day nor hour. Each and every time this phrase is used, it is ALWAYS attached to the clear admonition to WATCH for the signs of His coming. ALL THE SIGNS!In Matthew 24 (the Olivet Discourse), the command to watch for the signs of His (Jesus) coming, both PRECEED and FOLLOW (the statement “No man KNOWS (IEDO) the day nor hour.” The Lord has made it emphatically clear, that we must KNOW (ginosko – to understand, to perceive) the watch.A simple example is this: you’re driving down a highway, there are no mile markers. You do not KNOW (IEDO) how much further to your destination until you see some identifiable markers saying “Kingdom City – 5 miles,” then you begin to KNOW (ginosko) some detail. As you drive further, you see a sign “Kingdom City – Next Exit, ¼ mile”.Now you KNOW (ginosko) even more, and so-on until you arrive at the corner of Matthew and 24th street where you make a right hand turn till you come to the crossing of 24th street and 30th Avenue. Now you KNOW (IEDO and Ginosko) where you are. This is exactly what these passages say.You must ALWAYS weigh what is VAGUE in scripture, against what is EMPHATIC. When you are confronted by this conflict, you MUST ALWAYS dig deeper. These things are NOT unknown to those educated in pre-tribulation theology. This makes them all the more accountable for their utterly false doctrine!Jesus declared to his disciples (and the Church of the Ages) – You do not NOW know, so you must watch for the signs, and as you BEGIN to see the signs, you will KNOW that more and more signs are forth coming, and then suddenly you will arrive at that LAST SIGN preceding the gathering of the elect when “THE SUN BECOMES DARK as SACK CLOTH, THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT, THE POWERS OF THE HEAVEN SHALL BE SHAKEN AND THE SON OF MAN and He shall send His ANGELS to gather His elect from Heaven (the dead who rise first) and earth (those who are alive and remain unto His coming).”Mark 13:24-31: “24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. 28Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: 29So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. 30Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 31Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.”I Thessalonians 4:13-17: “13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”Blessed will be that day when the Union of “IEDO” and “GINOSKO” comes to pass, for THEN, the rapture will become… IMMINENT

ESCHATOLOGY----TRUMPETS and VIALS apologetics

2008-11-27T18:12:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Trumpets and Vials apologetics
Oct 30, 2007 The Trumpets And The VialsDanny McDowellOf the Book of RevelationI thought I would set about to explain MY understanding of the Trumpet, and Vial events of the Book of Revelation. I will focus specifically on the EVENTS for now, and point out some very obvious observations as we go through these catastrophic disasters which will come upon the earth.First; I would like to point out that THESE trumpet, and vial events follow the opening of the SEVENTH SEAL---------therefore; they CANNOT transpire concurrently with the opening of the SEALS of Chapter Six, and Seven of the Revelation. Some expositors make ludicrous attempts to do so, in order to support a pre-conceived doctrinal point-------however------the Lord has robbed such persons leverage, in the DISCRIPT MANNER in which he describes the SEVENTH SEAL. Fearing that their PERSONAL ESCHATOLOGY will collapse under the weight of this scriptural evidence; they begin a hopeless SHELL GAME to find a WAY to explain a “CONCURRENCE” of the “SEALS” with the Trumpets, and Vials. It is a MADDENING effort.Rev 8:1-10:1Revelation 88:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.Note in verse one; that the SEVENTH SEAL has been opened. This will become an absolutely CRITICAL observation as we move along.2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.The angels have been GIVE TRUMPETS----------AFTER-----the opening of the Seventh Seal. This evidence ALONE should dispel the notion that the Seals/Trumpets/ and Vials run concurrently. One must logically ask; “how would Trumpet # 1 run concurrent with Seal #1 if the TRUMPETS of this passage are not even given to the angels until SEAL # 7 has been opened?? This is NONE LESS than elementary school arithmetic--------and yet; to soothe their need for supporting their OWN position, those who teach the afore-mentioned doctrine un-ashamedly cling to their folley.3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.So we have these events so far----- the Seventh Seal has been opened; Seven Trumpets have been distributed to seven angels------and NOW they prepare to sound.FIRST TRUMPET7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.a. hail and fire mingled with bloodb. a third part of earth’s trees and grass are burned upSECOND TRUMPET8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;a. a great burning mountain cast into the seab. a third part of the sea became blood.9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.c. a third part of the creatures in the sea are killedd. a third part of the ships were destroyedI must stop here and address this matter of the destruction of Mystery Babylon. To those pundits of the post-tribulation destruction of Commercial Mystery Babylon [Rev.18], I must ask; how is it possible for the merchants of the earth, who trade by sea----to lament their loss of trade into Babylon [Rev.18]-----when FULLY ONE THIRD of all the ships in the sea have been destroyed under this Trumpet ? DON”T YOU NEED THOSE SHIPS TO TRADE BY SEA ??THIRD TRUMPET10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.a. a burning, cosmic body falls upon the rivers, and fountains [springs]b. a third part of the waters were poisoned of “wormwood”c. many men died because of the poisoned waterFOURTH TRUMPET12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!a. a third part of the sun/moon/stars “are smittenb. heavenly light is reduced by 33%c. the inhabitants of the earth are warned about the three remaining Trumpetjudgements.FIFTH TRUMPETRevelation 99:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,a. a “star” falls from heaven-------a heavenly entity-----“he” [a personal pronoun}b. “he” opens a bottomless pit which releases heat, and smoke, and the environment isdarkened by it.c. creatures that resemble “scorpions” are released with the smoke.d. allowed to harm “only those men who do not have the SEAL OF GOD----“e. the creature cannot kill, but have power to TORTUREf men shall seek to die, but cannotg they are authorized to torment for FIVE MONTHSh. one woe is past------and I am to believe that “Commercial Babylon” is perking right along through these horrific events and proclaiming ----“I sit as a Queen and shall see no harm”---and BUSSINESS AS USUAL“ ???SIXTH TRUMPET13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.a. four “bound” angels of the Euphrates [Iraq] are loosed with TWO HUNDREDMILLION creatures of verse 17b. will slay a THIRD PART OF MEN for eighteen months, one day, and one hour[this in addition to the millions who have already died of WORMWOOD]c. surviving men still do not repentTo those pre-tribulationists who RUSH to cite the “days of Noah, when they were marrying, and given in marriage” in order to present a picture of a relatively peaceful world “prior to the rapture”----please note; In all of this miserable chaos--------MEN REPENTED NOT OF THEIR LUSTS!!!. This should serve as a clear warning to the DENIAL that lives in the hearts of men. In the days of Noah there was VIOLENCE in the earth, which triggered the awesome hand of God.We will skip over the parenthetical events of this passage, and move on to the SEVENTH TRUMPET, since it is the “Trumpets, and Vials” that we are concerned with.Rev 10:6-86 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.KJVa. “time is no more”[the more correct translation of this phrase is---“this sequence is ended”; inother words------there is nothing to follow]b. the mystery of God is finishedThe question following this statement should be; “if the Mystery of God is ended, then why is there yet SEVEN VIALS to be poured out?” this is the central effort of this apologetic.THE VIALSRev 15:5-16:185 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.These “seven angels” are clothed in WHITE because the judgments they are about to dispense are RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS. The earth is about to receive her JUST DUES.7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.Revelation 1616:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.Make no mistake;--------this is the WRATH OF GODFIRST VIAL2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.Note that the men of this verse have .GRIEVOUS SORES. Let’s return to the FIRST TRUMPET and take a look at the description of THAT event. Hail and fire are cast upon the earth, and plant life is scorched. There is no significant correlation between the Trumpet, and Vial events at this point, unless it is the “hail, and fire” that have caused the sores.SECOND VIAL3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.In the events of the SECOND TRUMPET we see that FIRE is cast into the sea, and a THIRD PART of the sea became as blood. Do you see the similarities between the SECOND TRUMPET, and the SECOND VIAL ?THIRD VIAL4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.In the events of the THIRD TRUMPET we see that a star called WORMWOOD falls into the earth and pollutes a THIRD of the rivers, and fountains of water. Do you see the STARK SIMILARITIES between the THIRD TRUMPET, and the THIRD VIAL ?5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgmentsFOURTH VIAL.8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.Under the FOURTH TRUMPET we see the Sun/Moon/Stars are also STRICKEN.FIFTH VIAL10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.Under the FIFTH TRUMPET we see that creatures resembling scorpions are released into the earth along with smoke, and heat, and men are tortured by these beings. Note that men under the FIFTH TRUMPET are not allowed to die, but must endure their suffering. These men of the FIFTH VIAL, also do not die. We know this because in spite of all their suffering--------THEY REPENT NOT !SIXTH VIAL12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be preparedUnder the SIXTH TRUMPET-----four demonic angels are loosed AT THE RIVEREUPHRATES-----and two hundred million creatures are loosed to slay a THIRD ofmankind. Beside the obvious similarities of these SEVEN Trumpet, and Vial events, there is a HUGE PROBLEM for those who hold to the belief that these TRUMPETS and VIALS unfold chronologically; that is to say--------that the VIAL judgments follow the TRUMPET judgments in a redundant manner. Here is the IMPOSSIBLE PROBLEM---------By the time that the SIXTH VIAL is poured out, the number of men who have been killed during the SEALS, and TRUMPET judgments, is nearing 100%, and we have not even entered the VIAL JUDGMENTS. You see; we have already approached 100% of mankind killed under the combination of the Seals, and Trumpets, -----yet we are to believe that there is much more to come under the VIAL judgments------not likely. We are also asked to believe that there is a NATIONAL ENTITY [Babylon], with an economy SO VIABLE as to SURVIVE all these horrors, and to cause the MURCHANTS OF THE EARTH to lament her destruction----- FOLLOWING THE HORRORS OF THE SEVEN SEALS, TRUMPETS, AND VIALS ? Who could possibly believe this ? Who could possibly believe this doctrine ? Yet, there are THOUSANDS who do. Where is that ABILITY to RIGHTLY DIVIDE the Word ? Where is PLAIN COMMON SENSE, and THIRD GRADE ARITHMATIC ?13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.SEVENTH VIAL17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.Note the words of the SEVENTH VIAL-----“IT IS DONE”. Now note the words of the angel of God at the sounding of the SEVENTH TRUMPET----- “THE MYSTERY OF GOD IS FINISHED” ! May I honestly ask; Are the judgments of God so impotent that he must REPEAT his judgments in order to make some COSMIC POINT ? Does he cause pain and suffering TWICE ? Does he destroy the sea, and the ships of the sea---TWICE.? Does he deal with this matter of THE EUPHRATES----TWICE ? Does he cause an END to his judgment—TWICE ? Or is it that the FIRST TRUMPET SOUNDS--------and the First Vial is poured out? The SECOND TRUMPET SOUNDS-----and the Second Vial is poured out ?-----and so on, and so on until the SEVENTH TRUMPET SOUNDS, and the Seventh Vial is poured out ? This latter scenario seems the only reasonable portrayal of these JUDGMENTS OF GOD . Now on to Revelation 16:17-21---------------Rev 16:17-17:117 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.GREAT BABYLON ?This is the logic---------to the notion that THIS post-tribulation event involving “GREAT BABYLON”, is synonymous to that destruction of Mystery Babylon of Rev. 17, and 18. Because “GREAT BABYLON” ----------CAME IN REMEMBRANCE before God------to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath”; we are to believe that this “REMEMBRANCE” is synonymous to the destruction of Mystery Babylon that the Lord says will come at the hands of “TEN KINGS, who will BURN HER WITH FIRE, and EAT HER FLESH and give their power unto the Beast”. How in the NAME OF REASON, and SOUND BIBLE EXOGESIS, can we possibly come to the conclusion, that these two Babylonian events are the same ??. In REV.17-----SHE IS “BURNED WITH FIRE, AND HER FLESH IS EATEN”-----------In Rev.16:9 she is DIVIDED INTO THREE PARTS, as God simply REMEMEMBERS [the gravity of] HER SINS, and her previous punishment. That is ALL that Revelation 16 has to say about Babylon. Anything further, is simply added to support unscriptural eschatology.20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.How is it that the Kings of the earth, and Merchants of the earth [Rev.18:9-11] lament the INITIAL destruction of Commercial Babylon---------if the NATIONS OF THE EARTH HAVE FALLEN-------and EVERY ISLAND HAS FLED AWAY ?? These are reasonable questions to be asked of reasonable people. They MUST be answered by those who play the prophecy SHELL GAME.21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.These people of Rev.16, ARE NOT lamenting their financial losses at the destruction of Commercial Babylon as in Rev.18----------they are CURSING GOD because of the plague of hail ! If one is to believe that the destruction of Babylon Rev. 18, and Babylon Rev.16:9 are the same event------------how do the TEN KINGS [Rev.17] now give their power unto the Beast ? This is LUDSICROUS—because at this point in Rev. 16, we have arrived at ------ARMAGHEDON--------which is at the VERY END of the Forty-two months!LISTEN FOLKSListen folks, we are poised at the very point in time when God will bring judgment to Babylon/America at the hands of the TEN KINGS. Current events in the Middle East are a grave testimony to that soon destruction. It is the spirit of the Medes [Iranians] that God is stirring to launch that very destruction of which I speak. Gog------the prince of Magog [Russia], Meshech [Moscovites], and Tubal [Tubalskis] will back an alliance of Islamic nations to attack the land of Israel---------BUT FIRST--------they must deal with ------BABYLON-----------------Ezek 38:10-1310 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

ESCHATOLOGY-----TWO RESURRECTIONS----apologetics

2008-11-27T18:10:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

Two ressurections---apologetics
Oct 30, 2007 The Two ResurrectionsDanny McDowellJohn 5:27-3027 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.KJVJohn 11:23-2523 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.KJVLuke 14:14-1514 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee, for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.Matt 24:3131 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.KJVActs 24:15-1615 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.KJV1 Thess 4:16-5:116 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.KJV1 Cor 15:52-5552 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.Rev 11:15-12:115 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. KJVRev 20:4-74 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.THIS IS THE FIRST RESSURECTION !!

ESCHATOLOGY----the APPEARING and COMING---lesson

2008-11-27T18:08:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Appearing and Coming
Nov 20, 2007 Appearing and ComingDanny McdowellCol 3:3-53 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.1 Peter 5:2-52 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.1 John 2:28-2928 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.1 John 3:2-32 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.2 Tim 4:1-54:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.2 Tim 4:7-97 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.Titus 2:13-1413 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;1 Peter 1:7-87 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:THE COMING1 Cor 1:7-97 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.1 Cor 15:23-2523 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.1 Thess 2:19-2019 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?1 Thess 4:15-5:115 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.2 Thess 2:1-32:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.2 Thess 2:8-108 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,James 5:7-87 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.2 Peter 3:12-1312 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?1 John 2:28-2928 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming

ESCHATOLOGY----The only ELECT---lesson

2008-11-27T18:07:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

The ELECT LESSON in scripture
Nov 20, 2007 The Elect LessonDanny McDowellLuke 18:7-97 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?Rom 8:33-3633 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?Col 3:12-1412 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies,kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.Titus 1:1-31:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;2 In God's hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;1 Peter 1:1-41:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,2 John 1-21:1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;KJV2 John 12 - 3 John 112 Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.13 The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.KJVMatt 24:24-2624 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.25 Behold, I have told you before.Matt 24:29-3229 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shallgather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.KJV

ESCHATOLOGY----TWO RESURRECTIONS---lesson

2008-11-27T18:05:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

HOW MANY RESSURECTIONS ?
Nov 21, 2007 THE TWO RESURRECTIONSDanny McDowellJohn 5:27-3027 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.KJVJohn 11:23-2523 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.KJVLuke 14:14-1514 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee, for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.Matt 24:3131 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.KJVActs 24:15-1615 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.KJV1 Thess 4:16-5:116 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.KJV1 Cor 15:52-5552 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.Rev 11:15-12:115 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.KJVRev 20:4-74 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.KJV

ESCHATOLOGY-----he that OVERCOMES----lesson

2008-11-27T18:03:00.000-08:00

, November 26, 2008

He that OVERCOMES
Nov 21, 2007 He That OvercomesDanny McDowellNT:nikao (nik-ah'-o); from NT:3529; to subdue (literally or figuratively):KJV - conquer, overcome, prevail, get the victory.1 John 5:4-64 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?Rev 2:7-87 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.Rev 2:11-1211 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.Rev 2:17-1817 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.Rev 2:26-2726 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:Rev 3:5-65 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.Rev 3:12-1312 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.KJVRev 3:21-4:121 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.Rev 21:7-97 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.HE THAT ENDURESNT:5278hupomeno (hoop-om-en'-o); from NT:5259 and NT:3306; to stay under (behind), i.e. remain; figuratively, to undergo, i.e. bear (trials), have fortitude, persevere:KJV - abide, endure, (take) patient (-ly), suffer, tarry behind.Matt 10:22-2322 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.Matt 24:13-1513 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.Mark 13:13-1413 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

ESCHATOLOGY-----the ANGELS gather the ELECT----lesson

2008-11-27T17:50:00.000-08:00

, November 26, 2008

The angels gather at the LAST DAY
Nov 21, 2007 The Last Day LessonDanny McDowellJohn 6:39-4539 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.John 6:54-5554 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.John 11:22-2522 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.John 12:48-4948 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.THE ANGELSMatt 13:37-5037 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,Matt 24:29-3229 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.Mark 13:24-2824 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.COMING IN CLOUDS OF GLORYMatt 24:27-3127 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Luke 21:25-2925 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; f

ESCHATOLOGY---MICHAEL---the ANGELIC RESTRAINER

2008-11-27T17:47:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

The RESTRAINER of II THessalonians2
Nov 21, 2007 The Restrainer of II Thessalonians 2:6-7Danny McDowellII Thessalonians 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.It is declared universally amongst pre-tribulationism, that “he who now letteth” of verses 6 through 8, is speaking specifically of “the Holy Spirit” and that “when the Holy Spirit is moved out of the way – the Church (indwelt by the Holy Spirit) will be removed from the earth” and THEN antichrist can be revealed. It is declared that this is “PROOF” of a pre-tribulation rapture. There are no cross references given to verify this thought to date. CAN THIS RESTRINER OF II THESSALONIANS BE IDENTIFIED?Read Below The RestrainerThe RestrainerCan you say S-P-E-C-U-L-A-T-E? Sure you can! “the restraining force of II Thessalonians 2 is the Church, indwelt by the Holy Spirit!” (can also be used and interchanged with the word C-O-N-J-E-C-T-U-R-E) FACT!There is not a single cross reference in the entire Bible to validate this position. NOT ONE! The shameful part of all of this is that even prominent pre-tribulation theologians confess this to be true. Writers such as Drs. Pentecost and Ryrie admit this, but not without volumes of vague speculation worthy only of a Compost Pile (Piled High and DEEP)! PhD.Who then is the restrainer of II Thessalonians 2? The Bible standard for establishing a truth is that “a thing must be established in the eyes of two (or more) witnesses. Are there witnesses to identify the restrainer of II Thessalonians 2? The answer is YES!The first thing we must understand is that this reference (the restrainer) is placed within a larger context. The context of II Thessalonians 2 is as follows; Paul the apostle is reviewing his previous Thessalonian indoctrination in regard to the resurrection of the righteous, and “our” (those who are alive and remain at Christs’ coming) GATHERING TO BE WITH HIM. Paul had previously spoken on this matter on a prior visit to the Thessalonians as well as in his first epistle to the Thessalonian church. He clearly explained to the church (in these prior teachings) that they should NEVER sorrow regarding those who had already died.I Thessalonians 4:13-17:“13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”In his second epistle, Paul recites doctrine that he has already spoken of. He CLARIFIES doctrine regarding THE COMING of THE LORD and OUR GATHERING TO BE WITH HIM. It is clear by this passage that the Coming, and the Gathering, are to happen AT THE SAME TIME! Let’s take a close look.II Thessalonians 2:“1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.”Verse 1:“1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,”Paul is saying “Please pay particular attention to this matter of “the coming of the Lord and our gathering to be with Him.” OUR GATHERING TOGETHER TO BE WITH HIM! There can be no question as to the identity of this event. This IS the rapture of the Church!Verse 2:“2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.”a) Even if you receive a FORGED letter (as if from US) to say that “the Day of Christ” (the rapture) is at hand”Verse 3:3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”b) “Let NO MAN deceive you by any means.” Paul states here that those who teach an IMMINENT Return of Jesus for His Church ARE DECEIVERS!c) “That Day” what day? Verse 1, “the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering to be with Him!”“SHALL NOT COME.” The word NOT is an interesting word in this passage. Are you ready for a reveling translation of this word? (Let the reader understand.) The word “not” in this passage means “NOT!” That day of Christ and our gathering to be with Him will NOT come until –d) there comes a “Falling Away First, and The Man of Sin Be Revealed, the Son of Perdition. Matthew 24:15: “15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)”".Is there a message here? Our gathering will NOT come until 1st) the FALLING AWAY and 2nd) the MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED!Verse 4:“4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” e) Antichrist is revealed by “sitting in the temple of God, showing himself TO BE God.f) He opposes ALL that is called God. IT is commonly believed that this “man of sin” will profess to be Christ himself. This verse clearly states that he opposes ALL that is called God.Verse 5:“5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?”Paul has previously recited this doctrine to the Thessalonians.NOW THE CRUXVerse 6:“6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.”Do you think that the Thessalonians might actually KNOW who it is that is withholdingthe revelation of Antichrist?Verse 7:“7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.”“He who now letteth” is the “Restrainer” in question in this matter. He will restrain until he is taken “Out of the way.” It is said in pre-tribulationism that the HE (restrainer) in this verse is the HOLY SPIRIT (indwelling the church). Please take a moment to ask yourself this question; Who is it that will take GOD ALMIGHTY (the Holy Spirit), out of the way?It is also a common claim that it is the church of Jesus Christ, indwelt by the Holy Spirit that is RESTRAINING EVIL in the earth, and that when the church is removed – evil will prevail. I can hardly contain the laughter at this ridiculous notion. LOOK AROUND YOU…NUFF SAID!Verse 8-12:“8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”The Man of Sin is revealed; so “WHO” is the restrainer of II Thessalonians 2?We must not forget that the Bible (the only Bible) that was available to Paul at that time was the Old Testament. Paul was not only familiar with the Old Testament, he was a Scholar, having NO EQUALS in the Church. Peter confesses the difficulties of Paul’s teaching.II Peter 3:16:“16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”Paul was teaching of that same event as recorded in the Olivet Discourse.Matthew 24:15:“15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)”This is the revelation of Antichrist! Jesus clearly tells us where (in scripture) this event is found. It is found in the writings of Daniel! Paul, therefore, was teaching from Daniel. He is teaching here, the events of the SECOND HALF of 70th week of Daniel and pin points THE BEGINNING OF THE LAST HALF OF THE WEEK! Since Paul is clearly teaching “The [second half of] the Seventieth Week of Daniel,” it is reasonable to believe that the “Restrainer” of II Thessalonians may be found in the writings of Daniel. Let’s take a look.Daniel 12:1-3:“1And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.”A) At that time shall “Michael” stand up! Michael is the Arch-Angel Protector of the people of Israel! Daniel 10:13-14: “13But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. 14Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.” and Daniel 12:1, “1And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.” The words “stand up” in Daniel 12:1, is translated from the Hebrew word “AMAD” (Strong’s reference #5975). “AMAD” in the Hebrew language means to “STAND and to CEASE.” In military terms it means to “stand at ease” to “stand down.” This is the activity of the beginning of the LAST HALF of the Seventieth week of Daniel – To “STAND DOWN!” We know this to be emphatically true because Daniel reveals to us the CAUSE and EFFECT of this event. Michael (“STANDS DOWN”) and “THE GREAT TRIBULATION BEGINS.” Persecution of the Jews at that time will be horrific.B) Matthew 24:16-21, “16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”C) Revelation 12:1-6, “1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days [3 ½ years].” The woman in Revelation 12:6 is (and can ONLY BE) ISRAEL!D) This is the TIME of JACOBS TROUBLE. Please note in Revelation 12:7-9, “7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” “Michael” and his angels battle with “Satan” and his angels. Satan and his angels are “CAST TO EARTH.” Note in Revelation 12:12, “12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” WOE TO THE INHABITERS OF THE EARTH! The devil has come to you, having “GREAT WRATH because he knows that he has but a short time. I must take time here to ask a very important question; It is emphatically claimed in pre-tribualtionism, that the entire 70th week of Daniel [7 years] is synonymous to “The WRATH of GOD.” Look closely at Revelation 12:12: Where does this WRATH come from? Is this the WRATH OF GOD? This passage clearly answers the question regarding “WHOSE WRATH” is involved in the Great Tribulation that begins the SECOND HALF of THE SEVENTIETH WEEK OF DANIEL! Here is a brief synopsis to that event;1. Michael is restraining the full fury of Satan in the heavenlies.2. Michael and his angels defeat Satan and his angels and Satan (and his angels) ARE CAST TO EARTH!3. Antichrist is possessed by Satan (to begin the final HALF of the Seventieth Week of Daniel).4. Great tribulation begins.5. Michael “STANDS DOWN” AMAD!Paul is clearly teaching from the book of Daniel regarding the events of the beginning of the SECOND HALF of the week. Can the identity of the restrainer of II Thessalonians 2 be ascertained by two (or more) scriptural witnesses? Yes! Witness #1-Daniel 12:1 and Witness #2-Revelation 12:7-9. It is MICHAEL the angelic PRINCE OF ISRAEL!

ESCHATOLOGY----MICHAEL-----the RESTRAINER---lesson

2008-11-27T17:43:00.000-08:00

, November 26, 2008

Michael the "restrainer"
Nov 21, 2007 The Michael LessonDanny McDowellNT:2722katecho (kat-ekh'-o); from NT:2596 and NT:2192; to hold down (fast), in various applications (literally or figuratively):KJV - have, hold (fast), keep (in memory), let, X make toward, possess, retain, seize on, stay, take, withhold.Jude 9-109 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.KJVRev 12:6-126 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

ESCHATOLOGY---coming as a theif ? for WHO ?

2008-11-27T17:41:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

As a THEIF
Nov 21, 2007 THE THIEF LESSONDanny McDowellMatt 24:43-4543 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of cometh.Luke 12:39-4439 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.1 Thess 5:2-52 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.2 Peter 3:10-1310 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?Rev 3:3-43 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.Rev 16:15-1615 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.KJV

ESCHATOLOGY----IEDO verses GINOSKO---no one knows lesson

2008-11-27T17:35:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

No one knows the day nor hour
Nov 21, 2007 No one knows the Day nor the HourMatthew 24:42:It is taught in pre-tribulationism that the words of Jesus indicate that the gathering of the elect support the “THIEF” theory. Once again, we must look a little closer at the passage to understand the true meaning.“KNOW” Strongs Reference # 1492: Greek – Iedo (eedo) to now know, always in the present “perfect” tense. As opposed to;“KNOW” Strongs Reference # 1097: Greek – Ginosko (ghinoosko) “to perceive and understand.”In each and EVERY passage where it is declared “No man KNOWS the day nor the hour,” the Greek work IEDO is used. It simply means no man NOW knows the day nor hour. Each and every time this phrase is used, it is ALWAYS attached to the clear admonition to WATCH for the signs of His coming. ALL THE SIGNS!In Matthew 24 (the Olivet Discourse), the command to watch for the signs of His (Jesus) coming, both PRECEED and FOLLOW (the statement “No man KNOWS (IEDO) the day nor hour.” The Lord has made it emphatically clear, that we must KNOW (ginosko – to understand, to perceive) the watch. A simple example is this: you’re driving down a highway, there are no mile markers.You do not KNOW (IEDO) how much further to your destination until you see some identifiable markers saying “Kingdom City – 5 miles,” then you begin to KNOW (ginosko) some detail. As you drive further, you see a sign “Kingdom City – Next Exit, ¼ mile”. Now you KNOW (ginosko) even more, and so-on until you arrive at the corner of Matthew and 24th street where you make a right hand turn till you come to the crossing of 24th street and 30th Avenue. Now you KNOW (IEDO and Ginosko) where you are.This is exactly what these passages say. You must ALWAYS weigh what is VAGUE in scripture, against what is EMPHATIC. When you are confronted by this conflict, you MUST ALWAYS dig deeper. These things are NOT unknown to those educated in pre-tribulation theology. This makes them all the more accountable for their utterly false doctrine!Jesus declared to his disciples (and the Church of the Ages) – You do not NOW know, so you must watch for the signs, and as you BEGIN to see the signs, you will KNOW that more and more signs are forth coming, and then suddenly you will arrive at that LAST SIGN preceding the gathering of the elect when “THE SUN BECOMES DARK as SACK CLOTH, THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT, THE POWERS OF THE HEAVEN SHALL BE SHAKEN AND THE SON OF MAN and He shall send His ANGELS to gather His elect from Heaven (the dead who rise first) and earth (those who are alive and remain unto His coming).”Mark 13:24-31: “24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. 28Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: 29So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. 30Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 31Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.”I Thessalonians 4:13-17: “13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”Blessed will be that day when the Union of “IEDO” and “GINOSKO” comes to pass, for THEN, the rapture will become…IMMINENT

ESCHATOLOGY-----who is TAKEN ?---lesson

2008-11-27T17:33:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

One shall be taken
Nov 21, 2007 TAKEN---PARALAMBANODanny McDowellNT:3880paralambano (par-al-am-ban'-o); from NT:3844 and NT:2983; to receive near, i.e. associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation); by analogy, to assume an office; figuratively, to learn:KJV - receive, take (unto, with).Matt 24:40-4240 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.KJVLuke 17:34-3734 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.KJVLEFT-------APHIEMINT:863aphiemi (af-ee'-ay-mee); from NT:575 and hiemi (to send; an intens. form of eimi, to go); to send forth, in various applications (as follow):KJV - cry, forgive, forsake, lay aside, leave, let (alone, be, go, have), omit, put (send) away, remit, suffer, yield up.Matt 24:40-4240 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.KJVP

ESCHATOLOGY----ONE TAKEN/ONE LEFT

2008-11-27T17:31:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

One taken---One left
Nov 21, 2007 One will be Taken and the Other LeftRichard PerryWhat did Jesus mean when He said, “one will be taken and the other left”?As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken [paralambano] and the other left [aphiemi]. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken [paralambano] and the other left [aphiemi]. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come (Matthew 24:37-42).For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other. But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. "Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark.Then the flood came and destroyed them all. "It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all. "It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. On that day no one who is on the roof of his house, with his goods inside, should go down to get them.Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. Remember Lot's wife! Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken [paralambano] and the other left [aphiemi]. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken [paralambano] and the other left [aphiemi]" (Luke 17:24-35).The word taken in these two passages is translated from the Greek word paralambano. Paralambano means to receive near, i.e. associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation), to receive.The word left is translated from the Greek word aphiemi. Aphiemi, means to forsake, lay aside, leave, let alone, let be, let go, omit, put away, send away.The word paralambano is also used in another reference to the return of Christ, below. Jesus tells his disciples that when He comes back from heaven He will receive them unto Himself."Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take [paralambano] you to be with me that you also may be where I am (John 14:1-3).Allowing Scripture to interpret Scripture, it's clear what Jesus means when He says, “one will be taken and the other left.” When He returns from heaven, Jesus will receive the believers unto Himself and the unbelievers will be put away.Richard H PerryTaken----One Left

ESCHATOLOGY----BUSTED by TEREO EK

2008-11-27T17:28:00.000-08:00

---------used 32 times in the New Testament

A BUST ON TEREO EK

10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from [TEREO EK] the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
KJV

NT:5083
tereo (tay-reh'-o); from teros (a watch; perhaps akin to NT:2334); to guard (from loss or injury, properly, by keeping the eye upon; and thus differing from NT:5442, which is properly to prevent escaping; and from NT:2892, which implies a fortress or full military lines of apparatus), i.e. to note (a prophecy; figuratively, to fulfil a command); by implication, to detain (in custody; figuratively, to maintain); by extension, to withhold (for personal ends; figuratively, to keep unmarried); by extension, to withhold (for personal ends; figuratively, to keep unmarried):

KJV - hold fast, keep (-er), (pre-, re-) serve, watch.

John 8:51-56
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

KJV

John 17:11-16
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15 I pray NOT that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest KEEP THEM FROM [tereo ek] the evil.
Cross reference to Revelation 3:10

2 Cor 11:9-11
9 And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.

10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
KJV

Eph 4:2-3
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
KJV

1 Tim 5:22
22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.
KJV

1 Tim 6:14-15
14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
KJV

James 1:27-2:1
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
KJV

James 2:10-11
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
KJV

1 John 2:3-4
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
KJV

1 John 3:22-23
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
KJV

1 John 5:2-6
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
KJV

1 John 5:21 - 2 John 1
21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
KJV

Jude 21-25
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
KJV

Rev 1:3-4
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
KJV

Rev 12:17-13:1
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV

Rev 14:12-13
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
KJV

Rev 22:9-10
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
KJV

Rev 3:8-11
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
KJV

ESCHATOLOGY-----not appointed o Wrath---TEREO EK

2008-11-27T17:26:00.000-08:00

, November 26, 2008

The LAST TRUMP
Nov 21, 2007 TRUMPET/GATHERINGDanny McDowellNT:4536salpigx (sal'-pinx); perhaps from NT:4535 (through the idea of quavering or reverberation):KJV - a trumpet:1 Cor 15:52-5552 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.1 Thess 4:15-5:115 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.Matt 24:29-3129 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.Rev 11:15-1615 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.THE GATHERINGMatt 3:11-1311 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.Matt 13:27-3127 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.Luke 3:16-1816 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.Eph 1:9-119 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:BY THE ANGELSMatt 13:39-4439 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.Matt 16:26-2826 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.Matt 25:29-3129 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:Matt 24:29-3229 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

ESCHATOLOGY----the LAST TRUMP---lesson

2008-11-27T17:25:00.000-08:00

ESCHATOLOGY---the END---lesson

2008-11-27T17:21:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

The END
Nov 21, 2007 THE ENDDanny McDowellMatt 10:22-2322 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.KJVMatt 13:40-5140 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.KJVMatt 24:6-16And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.KJVMatt 28:20 - Mark 1:120 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.KJVMark 13:7-87 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.KJVMark 13:13-1413 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.KJVLuke 21:9-109 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.KJV1 Cor 1:8-98 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.KJV1 Cor 15:23-2523 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.KJV2 Cor 1:12-1512 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.13 For we write none other things unto you, than what ye read or acknowledge; and I trust ye shall acknowledge even to the end;14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.KJV1 Thess 3:13-4:113 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.KJVHeb 3:6-76 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.KJVHeb 3:14-1514 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;KJVHeb 6:11-1211 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:KJV1 Peter 1:9-149 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;KJVRev 2:26-2826 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.KJV

ESCHATOLOGY---the MILLINIAL KINGDOM

2008-11-27T17:18:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

The MILLINIAL KINGDOM
Nov 21, 2007 THE MILLINIAL KINGDOMDanny McDowellPs 98:9-99:19 Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall he judge the world, and the people with equity.Isa 11:4-134 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.Isa 35:1-36:135:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.Isa 65:20-66:120 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.Mic 4:1-84:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.KJV

ESCHATOLOGETICS----More wrath apologetics

2008-11-27T17:16:00.000-08:00

, November 26, 2008

Wrath of God----APOLOGETICS
Nov 21, 2007 THE WRATH OF GODDanny McDowellPre-tribulationism has but one view concerning the "Wrath of God." That view declares emphatically that the entire 70th week of Daniel (7 years of tribulation) and the "Wrath of God" are synonymous.Since the church has been promised exclusion from God's wrath "The 70th week of Daniel, the church must therefore be gathered prior to the opening of that event - hence "The Pre-Tribulation Rapture!" Some verses used to under gird this position are:I Thessalonians 5:9;"9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,".....Since the 70th week of Daniel and the "Wrath of God" are considered synonymous, it is believed impossible for the church to enter the 70th week of Daniel (7 years of tribulation).II Thessalonians 2:6-8;" restraining ""6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:".....It is said in Pre-Tribulation doctrine, that this restraining force spoken of in this passage is "The Church, indwelt by the Holy Spirit" and that this "Restraining influence will be removed from the earth prior to 7 years of tribulation.II Thessalonians 2:13;"13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:".....This verse is commonly used to support II Thessalonians 2:6-8. It is said that the phrase "has appointed you to salvation," indicates salvation from the "7 years of tribulation".Revelation 3:18;"10Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.".....It is said that the phrase "I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation " is referring to the 7 years previously mentioned.Revelation 4:1;"1After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will show thee things which must be hereafter.".....It is said that because John heard "a voice as a trumpet" and saw "a door was opened in heaven," that he was thrust forward in time and translated WITH THE CHURCH at the rapture. Since Revelation 4:1 precedes Revelation 6 (the opening of the first seal) and the revelation of Anti-Christ - this is substantial evidence that the church will be gathered prior to the 7 years of tribulation......Are these things so?Lets see what the Bible has to say about, The Wrath of God ,________________________________________The Day of The Lord..... It is fanatically held in PRE-TRIBULATION doctrine that the Day of The Lord and the 70th week of Daniel are synonymous, and since the church of all ages has been promised exclusion from God's Wrath due to the blood application of Jesus to every believer - the church will be taken out of the earth prior to the terrible events of the 70th week......It seems logical to me, that to identify the Day of the Lord (the WRATH OF GOD) is crucial to any position connected to that event. There is NOT a scrap of evidence anywhere in the Bible that will connect the entirety of the 70th week of Daniel (7 years of tribulation) to the Day of The Lord! Sounds incredulous doesn't it? So much of pre-tribulation reasoning depends on this single issue.I therefore challenge ANYONE to biblically connect the 70th week in its entirety to the Day of The Lord. Once again, I must say "Nothing in scripture connects 7 years of tribulation to the DAY OF THE LORD! It is said in pre-tribulation theology that the 7 years of tribulation begins with the "signing of a PEACE COVENANT" between Anti-Christ and others for the safety and protection of Israel. Many believe that this political agreement will provide for the construction of the 3rd Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.Let's look to the scriptures to find out how THE DAY OF THE LORD begins.Isaiah 2:10-22;"10Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty. 11The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 12For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?"Verse 10:"10Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty."..... Men enter into the rocks to hide from the Lord [Revelation 6:15-16].Verse 11:"11The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day."..... Man shall be humbled, ALL MEN!Verse 12:"12For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:"..... The Day of the Lord will humble the proud. Is Anti-Christ proud?Verse 13-16:"13And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures."..... Everything and every person will be humbled in the Day of The LORD!Verse 17:"17And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day."..... "THE LORD ALONE" will be exalted in that day. Where does Anti-Christ fit into this picture?Verse 18:"18And the idols he shall utterly abolish."..... All idols will be UTTERLY ABOLISHED in the DAY of the LORD. So much for the IMAGE of the BEAST!Verse 19:"19And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."..... Think they might be hiding from someone [Revelation 6:15-16]?Verse 21:"21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."..... WHO is shaking the earth here?Verse 22:"22Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?"..... CEASE YE FROM MAN WHOSE BREATH IS IN HIS NOSTRILS FOR WHEREIN IS HE TO BE ACCOUNTED OF?Could this include Anti-Christ?Isaiah 13:6-13;"6Howl ye; for the day of the LORD isat hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. 7Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt: 8And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. 9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. 11And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. 12I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. 13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.".....Verse 6:"6Howl ye; for the day of the LORD isat hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty."..... Where does the Day of the Lord come from in this verse? [Isaiah 2:17, Revelation 6:16-17]Is Anti-Christ involved here?Verse 9:"9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."..... Who gets destroyed here? Jews? Tribulation Saints?Verse 10:"10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine."..... Hmm - the Sun and Moon are darkened. Have I read this somewhere else?Verse 11:"11And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible."..... He will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease [Isaiah 2:13-16].Verse 13:"13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger."..... Please, tell me, is this THE WRATH OF GOD?Joel 1:15;"15Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."..... Again now, where does this wrath come from? Is Anti-Christ anyway involved in God's Wrath?Joel 2:1-2;"1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; 2A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.".....Verse 1:"1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;..... "let ALL inhabitants of the earth tremble." Would this include the FALSE PROPHET?Verse 2:"2A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."..... There's that Sun/Moon thing again!Joel 2:31-32:"31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. 32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.".....Verse 31:"31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come...... Redundant, redundant! Is there a point here? Whoa - wait a minute, there's NEW information here. The Sun and moon will be darkened BEFORE the Day of the Lord. How does that "Peace Covenant" thing fit into all of this?Verse 32:"32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call."..... What? People can still be saved? How is this possible? Those pre-tribulation folks said the Holy Spirit was taken out of the earth Before the opening of the 70th week! I'm sooo confused.Joel 3:14-15;"14Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. 15The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.".....Verse 14;"14Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision...... The Day of the Lord is near. In the VALLEY of DECISION! I think God is trying to say something here!Amos 5:18-20;"18Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. 19As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. 20Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?"..... Sun and moon again?Matthew 24:28-30;"28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."..... OK, now we're gonna get this sun/moon/tribulation thing straightened out!Verse 29:"29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: "..... What? "AFTER the tribulation of those days?"Luke 21:25-26;"25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.".....II Peter 3:10-12;"10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?".....Verse 10:"10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."..... OK, now we're talkin' pre-tribulation "thief in the night."Verse 12:"12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"..... Think I spoke too soon. Wonder what he means here by the words "LOOKING FOR?"Revelation 6:12-17;"12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?".....Verse 12:"12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;"..... Sun/moon thing again.Verse 17:"17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"..... "For the Great Day of HIS WRATH IS COME!"The Day of the Lord begins AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. There is no other Day of the Lord. SAME DAY ESCAPE.II Peter 2:4-9;"4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:"..... Anybody LEFT BEHIND here?Luke 17:28-30;"28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.".....Verse 29:"29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. "..... SAME DAY!Verse 30:"30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. "..... EVEN THUS - SAME DAY!..... When God shut the door of the ARK, it began to rain on the SAME DAY. When Lot was safely removed from Sodom and Gomorah - fire fell from heaven on the SAME DAY!NOBODY was LEFT BEHIND LIKEWISE! LIKEWISE! LIKEWISE! SAME DAY!..... It is difficult to understand how pre-tribulationists so utterly miss the mark on this very important point of the Day of the Lord. Four issues are at hand here:1. The pre-tribulationsists declaration that the Day of the Lord begins with the opening of 7 years of tribulation (70th week of Daniel) simply cannot be validated in scripture. There is absolutely NOTHING to support this notion. It seem then, that pre-tribulationists go to great lengths to avoid any discomfort what-so-ever upon the church of the Latter Times. Comfort has never been a criteria for interpreting scripture. There seems to be no plum lines or parameters in the pre-tribulation method of interpreting God's word. Standards of study and development of doctrine are totally abandoned regarding the identification of the Day of the Lord.2. It is not "DISCOMFORT" that the Lord promises protection from. It is not even "TRIBULATION" that the Lord promises deliverance from. It is only the Day of the Lord and His WRATH that the church will be exempt of. Tribulation is nothing new for the elect. The elect have always " suffered tribulation in some location and in every century throughout church history. To suggest that Tribulation and the Wrath of God are synonymous is ludicrous. Is every severe persecution that has assailed the church throughout the ages to be considered "The Wrath of God?" Early church leaders and followers of Jesus believed that the Day of the Lord was at hand BECAUSE of tribulation. They were well aware of the fact that the "GREAT TRIBULATION" must occur FIRST, before their gathering by the Lord. They held that Anti-Christ must first appear [II Thessalonians 2] and that he will set up the abomination of desolation which would be the Flash Point to begin the Great Tribulation! They BELIEVED their Lord and the Apostles.3. Neither God nor angles can dissuade the pre-tribulationist. God has said, "immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days, the sun and moon shall be darkened, the powers of the heavens shaken, and THEN the sign of the Son of Man in heaven --- He shall send His ANGELS to gather his elect " at that time [Matthew 24] The ANGEL said (to John) "These are those who came out of GREAT TRIBULATION." I must point out that these who "came out of Great Tribulation;a. were from every race on earth;b. numbered in the multiplied millions;c. they came out of the earth under the sixth seal at that same time when the Day of the Lord begins.4. Pre-tribulationists simply FAIL to disclose (in scripture) any other description of the Gathering Together of the ELECT. Every reference to the "Rapture" is based circumstantially and in many cases on conjecture and in some cases on unadulterated FRAUD (i.e. "the silent rapture")......It must be understood that "the valley of decision" precedes the Day of the Lord. This will be mankind's LAST CHANCE for deliverance and that day will come when the sun and moon are darkened and the powers of the heaven are shaken. There will be NO excuse in that day.Those appointed unto God's Wrath will be the only ones LEFT BEHIND!Is the 70th week of Daniel synonymous with the GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD?IMPOSSIBLE!!!

ESCHATOLOGY---WRATH apologetics

2008-11-27T17:13:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Wrath of God apologetics
24, 2007 The Wrath of GodDanny McDowellPre-tribulationism has but one view concerning the "Wrath of God." That view declares emphatically that the entire 70th week of Daniel (7 years of tribulation) and the "Wrath of God" are synonymous.Since the church has been promised exclusion from God's wrath "The 70th week of Daniel, the church must therefore be gathered prior to the opening of that event - hence "The Pre-Tribulation Rapture!" Some verses used to under gird this position are:I Thessalonians 5:9;"9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,".....Since the 70th week of Daniel and the "Wrath of God" are considered synonymous, it is believed impossible for the church to enter the 70th week of Daniel (7 years of tribulation).II Thessalonians 2:6-8;" restraining ""6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:".....It is said in Pre-Tribulation doctrine, that this restraining force spoken of in this passage is "The Church, indwelt by the Holy Spirit" and that this "Restraining influence will be removed from the earth prior to 7 years of tribulation.II Thessalonians 2:13;"13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:".....This verse is commonly used to support II Thessalonians 2:6-8. It is said that the phrase "has appointed you to salvation," indicates salvation from the "7 years of tribulation".Revelation 3:18;"10Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.".....It is said that the phrase "I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation " is referring to the 7 years previously mentioned.Revelation 4:1;"1After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will show thee things which must be hereafter.".....It is said that because John heard "a voice as a trumpet" and saw "a door was opened in heaven," that he was thrust forward in time and translated WITH THE CHURCH at the rapture. Since Revelation 4:1 precedes Revelation 6 (the opening of the first seal) and the revelation of Anti-Christ - this is substantial evidence that the church will be gathered prior to the 7 years of tribulation......Are these things so?Lets see what the Bible has to say about, The Wrath of God ,The Day of The Lord..... It is fanatically held in PRE-TRIBULATION doctrine that the Day of The Lord and the 70th week of Daniel are synonymous, and since the church of all ages has been promised exclusion from God's Wrath due to the blood application of Jesus to every believer - the church will be taken out of the earth prior to the terrible events of the 70th week......It seems logical to me, that to identify the Day of the Lord (the WRATH OF GOD) is crucial to any position connected to that event. There is NOT a scrap of evidence anywhere in the Bible that will connect the entirety of the 70th week of Daniel (7 years of tribulation) to the Day of The Lord! Sounds incredulous doesn't it? So much of pre-tribulation reasoning depends on this single issue.I therefore challenge ANYONE to biblically connect the 70th week in its entirety to the Day of The Lord. Once again, I must say "Nothing in scripture connects 7 years of tribulation to the DAY OF THE LORD! It is said in pre-tribulation theology that the 7 years of tribulation begins with the "signing of a PEACE COVENANT" between Anti-Christ and others for the safety and protection of Israel. Many believe that this political agreement will provide for the construction of the 3rd Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.Let's look to the scriptures to find out how THE DAY OF THE LORD begins.Isaiah 2:10-22; "10Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty. 11The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 12For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?"Verse 10: "10Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty."..... Men enter into the rocks to hide from the Lord [Revelation 6:15-16].Verse 11: "11The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day."..... Man shall be humbled, ALL MEN!Verse 12: "12For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:"..... The Day of the Lord will humble the proud. Is Anti-Christ proud?Verse 13-16: "13And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures."..... Everything and every person will be humbled in the Day of The LORD!Verse 17: "17And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day."..... "THE LORD ALONE" will be exalted in that day. Where does Anti-Christ fit into this picture?Verse 18: "18And the idols he shall utterly abolish."..... All idols will be UTTERLY ABOLISHED in the DAY of the LORD. So much for the IMAGE of the BEAST!Verse 19:"19And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."..... Think they might be hiding from someone [Revelation 6:15-16]?Verse 21: "21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."..... WHO is shaking the earth here?Verse 22: "22Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?"..... CEASE YE FROM MAN WHOSE BREATH IS IN HIS NOSTRILS FOR WHEREIN IS HE TO BE ACCOUNTED OF?Could this include Anti-Christ?Isaiah 13:6-13;"6Howl ye; for the day of the LORD isat hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. 7Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt: 8And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. 9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. 11And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. 12I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. 13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.".....Verse 6: "6Howl ye; for the day of the LORD isat hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty."..... Where does the Day of the Lord come from in this verse? [Isaiah 2:17, Revelation 6:16-17]Is Anti-Christ involved here?Verse 9: "9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."..... Who gets destroyed here? Jews? Tribulation Saints?Verse 10: "10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine."..... Hmm - the Sun and Moon are darkened. Have I read this somewhere else?Verse 11: "11And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible."..... He will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease [Isaiah 2:13-16].Verse 13: "13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger."..... Please, tell me, is this THE WRATH OF GOD?Joel 1:15; "15Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."..... Again now, where does this wrath come from? Is Anti-Christ anyway involved in God's Wrath?Joel 2:1-2; "1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; 2A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.".....Verse 1: "1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;..... "let ALL inhabitants of the earth tremble." Would this include the FALSE PROPHET?Verse 2: "2A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."..... There's that Sun/Moon thing again!Joel 2:31-32: "31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. 32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.".....Verse 31:"31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come...... Redundant, redundant! Is there a point here? Whoa - wait a minute, there's NEW information here. The Sun and moon will be darkened BEFORE the Day of the Lord. How does that "Peace Covenant" thing fit into all of this?Verse 32: "32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call."..... What? People can still be saved? How is this possible? Those pre-tribulation folks said the Holy Spirit was taken out of the earth Before the opening of the 70th week! I'm sooo confused.Joel 3:14-15;"14Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. 15The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.".....Verse 14; "14Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision...... The Day of the Lord is near. In the VALLEY of DECISION! I think God is trying to say something here!Amos 5:18-20;"18Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. 19As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. 20Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?"..... Sun and moon again?Matthew 24:28-30; "28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."..... OK, now we're gonna get this sun/moon/tribulation thing straightened out!Verse 29: "29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: "..... What? "AFTER the tribulation of those days?"Luke 21:25-26; "25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.".....II Peter 3:10-12;"10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?".....Verse 10: "10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."..... OK, now we're talkin' pre-tribulation "thief in the night."Verse 12: "12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"..... Think I spoke too soon. Wonder what he means here by the words "LOOKING FOR?"Revelation 6:12-17; "12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?".....Verse 12: "12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;"..... Sun/moon thing again.Verse 17: "17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"..... "For the Great Day of HIS WRATH IS COME!"The Day of the Lord begins AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. There is no other Day of the Lord. SAME DAY ESCAPE.II Peter 2:4-9; "4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:"..... Anybody LEFT BEHIND here?Luke 17:28-30; "28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.".....Verse 29: "29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. "..... SAME DAY!Verse 30: "30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. "..... EVEN THUS - SAME DAY!..... When God shut the door of the ARK, it began to rain on the SAME DAY. When Lot was safely removed from Sodom and Gomorah - fire fell from heaven on the SAME DAY!NOBODY was LEFT BEHIND LIKEWISE! LIKEWISE! LIKEWISE! SAME DAY!..... It is difficult to understand how pre-tribulationists so utterly miss the mark on this very important point of the Day of the Lord. Four issues are at hand here:The pre-tribulationsists declaration that the Day of the Lord begins with the opening of 7 years of tribulation (70th week of Daniel) simply cannot be validated in scripture. There is absolutely NOTHING to support this notion. It seem then, that pre-tribulationists go to great lengths to avoid any discomfort what-so-ever upon the church of the Latter Times. Comfort has never been a criteria for interpreting scripture. There seems to be no plum lines or parameters in the pre-tribulation method of interpreting God's word. Standards of study and development of doctrine are totally abandoned regarding the identification of the Day of the Lord.It is not "DISCOMFORT" that the Lord promises protection from. It is not even "TRIBULATION" that the Lord promises deliverance from. It is only the Day of the Lord and His WRATH that the church will be exempt of. Tribulation is nothing new for the elect. The elect have always " suffered tribulation in some location and in every century throughout church history. To suggest that Tribulation and the Wrath of God are synonymous is ludicrous. Is every severe persecution that has assailed the church throughout the ages to be considered "The Wrath of God?" Early church leaders and followers of Jesus believed that the Day of the Lord was at hand BECAUSE of tribulation. They were well aware of the fact that the "GREAT TRIBULATION" must occur FIRST, before their gathering by the Lord. They held that Anti-Christ must first appear [II Thessalonians 2] and that he will set up the abomination of desolation which would be the Flash Point to begin the Great Tribulation! They BELIEVED their Lord and the Apostles.Neither God nor angles can dissuade the pre-tribulationist. God has said, "immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days, the sun and moon shall be darkened, the powers of the heavens shaken, and THEN the sign of the Son of Man in heaven --- He shall send His ANGELS to gather his elect " at that time [Matthew 24] The ANGEL said (to John) "These are those who came out of GREAT TRIBULATION." I must point out that these who "came out of Great Tribulation;were from every race on earth;numbered in the multiplied millions;they came out of the earth under the sixth seal at that same time when the Day of the Lord begins.Pre-tribulationists simply FAIL to disclose (in scripture) any other description of the Gathering Together of the ELECT. Every reference to the "Rapture" is based circumstantially and in many cases on conjecture and in some cases on unadulterated FRAUD (i.e. "the silent rapture")......It must be understood that "the valley of decision" precedes the Day of the Lord. This will be mankind's LAST CHANCE for deliverance and that day will come when the sun and moon are darkened and the powers of the heaven are shaken. There will be NO excuse in that day. Those appointed unto God's Wrath will be the only ones LEFT BEHIND!Is the 70th week of Daniel synonymous with the GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD?IMPOSSIBLE!!!

ESCHATOLOGY---the WRATH OF GOD

2008-11-27T17:11:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

The WRATH OF GOD
Nov 21, 2007 THE WRATH VERSESDanny McDowellIsa 2:10-3:110 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty.11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan,14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up,15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall,16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures.17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?Isa 13:6-146 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.Joel 2:1-32:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.Joel 2:31-3:131 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.Joel 3:14-1714 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.Amos 5:18-2118 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?2 Peter 2:9-109 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:Matt 24:29-3029 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:Rev 6:12-7:112 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?Gen 7:12-1412 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;Luke 17:26-3126 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

PROPHECY----Woe to the nation shadowing with wings---America ?

2008-11-27T15:29:00.000-08:00

, November 26, 2008

Woe to the nation shadowing with wings
Nov 21, 2007 WOE TO THE NATION SHADOWING WITH WINGSDanny McDowellThere is a mysterious nation alluded to in Isaiah 18. It is a nation that God will destroy prior to the judgment of the whole earth during the coming DAY OF THE LORD. To attain the identity of this nation, one must look closely at the original language [Hebrew]; To do otherwise will leave one to conclude that this “nation” is some obscure ancient people of North Central Africa, who can never be identified in the study of ancient Bible lands. This aforementioned nation is prophetic, and holds great eschatological significance to the Church, and indeed to it’s people------and the WHOLE WORLD as we shall see.“WOE TO THE NATION SHADOWING WITH WINGS”TSELATSAL ---- OT 6767“a REDUPLICATING SOUND------CLATTER OF WINGS”--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“WHICH IS BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA”“RIVERS”NAHAR---O.T. 5104“STREAM or SEA”“ETHIOPIA”KUWSH---O.T.1573NORTH AFRICA---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“THAT SENDETH AMBASSADORS BY SEA”“AMBASSADORS”TSIYR----O.T. 6735“A HINGE---PRESSED IN TURNING”“MENTAL PRESSURE” as to intimidate“BY SEA”YAM---O.T.3220“TO ROAR”“A BREAKING SURF”“TO THE WEST”------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“EVEN IN VESSELS OF BULRUSHES UPON THE WATER”VESSELSKELIY---OT 3627“APPARATUS”“IMPLIMENT”“VESSEL ore WEAPON”“ARMOUR”“ARTILLERY”“OF BULRUSHES”GOME---OT 1572“BULRUSH”“SPECIFICALLY THE PAPYRUS”----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“SAYING; GO YE SWIFT MESSENGER”MAL’AK---OT 4397“A DISPATCH”“A MESSENGER OF GOD”“AN ANGEL OR PROPHET”------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“TO A PEOPLE TERRIBLE FROM THEIR BEGINNING HITHERTO”“TERRIBLE”YARE---OT3372“TO FEAR”“TO REVERE”“TO CAUSE FRIGHT”“HITHERTO”HALEAH---OT 1973“TO THE DISTANCE”“FAR AWAY”“ALSO IN TIME”“BEYOND”“FORTH”“YONDER”--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“TO A NATION METED OUT”:“METED OUT”QAV-QAV---OT 6978“FASTENED”“STALWART”“METED OUT”----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“AND TRODDEN DOWN”.MEBUWCAH---OT 4001“TRAMPLED”“TREADED UNDER FOOT”----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“WHOSE LAND THE RIVERS HAVE SPOILED”"“SPOILED”BAZA---OT 958“TO CLEAVE”“ALL YE INHABITERS OF THE WORLD, AND DWELLERS ON THE EARTH, SEE YE, WHEN HE LIFTETH UP AN ENSIGN ON THE MOUNTAINS; AND WHEN HE BLOWETH A TRUMPET, HEAR YE”“FOR SO THE LORD SAID UNTO ME, I WILL TAKE MY REST, AND I WILL CONSIDER IN MY DWELLING PLACE LIKE A CLEAR HEAT UPON HERBS, AND LIKE A CLOUD OF DEW IN THE HEAT OF HARVEST”“FOR AFORE THE HARVEST”“AFORE”PANIYM---OT 6440“BEFORE”“AGAINST”“FOREFRONT”“WHEN THE BUD IS PERFECT, AND THE SOUR GRAPE IS RIPENING IN THE FLOWER, HE SHALL BOTH CUT OFF THE SPRIGS WITH PRUNNING HOOKS, AND TAKE AWAY AND CUT DOWN THE BRANCHES”“THEY SHALL BE LEFT TOGETHER UNTO THE FOULS OF THE MOUNTAINS, AND TO THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH: AND THE FOULS SHALL SUMMER UPON THEM, AND ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH SHALL WINTER UPON THEM.”“IN THAT TIME SHALL THE PRESENT BE BROUGHT UNTO THE LORD OF HOSTS---------As in ancient days; the CAPTORS paraded their CONQUERED PEOPLES before the KING--------the destruction of THESE PEOPLE will satisfy the RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT of the Lord of the Universe. They are a renowned people, and TALL IN STATURE. They are a people who are FIERCELY INDEPENDENT to the point of PRIDE and OBSTINANCE.---------------OF A PEOPLE SCATTERED, AND PEELED”“SCATTERED”MASHAK---OT 4900“SOW”“SCATTER”“STRETCH OUT”“PEELED”MOWRAT---OT 4178“OBSTINATE”“INDEPENDENT”“AND FROM A PEOPLE TERRIBLE FROM THEIR BEGINNING HITHERTO; A NATION METED OUT AND TRODDEN UNDER FOOT, WHOSE LAND THE RIVERS HAVE SPOILED, TO THE PLACE OF THE NAME OF THE LORD OF HOSTS, THE MOUNT ZION”.This “present” will be parade before the Lord of Heaven and Earth as a witness to his righteousness.To those who would dismiss this explanation, I would ask these questions:1. What is your explanation of those devices hovering above the nation in verse 1.?2. Who would send “ambassadors by sea” to intimidate other nations [verse 2]?3. Who would this people be that are spread abroad, obstinate, and fiercely independent?4. What nation on earth has many interior borders, many of which are distinguished by the rivers that flow North to South, and East to West, and West to East over a continental divide.5. What continent is beyond the raging surf of West Africa?Who is this nation whose destruction follows the destruction of Damascus in the immediate preceding chapter of Isaiah? What is that characterization in time spoken of as “when the grape is beginning to ripen? What is the connection to MYSTERY BABYLON of the book of Revelation?In Revelation 14:6, we see that the Gospel is being freely preached in the earth.In Revelation 14:8, we hear the declaration; “BABYLON IS FALLEN”.In Revelation 14:9 we hear the warning, “if any man worship the BEAST and his image, or receive his mark-------------“. These angelic declarations are CHRONOLOGICAL IN TIME..In verse 15, the declaration of the HARVEST OF THE EARTH--------BECAUSE THE HARVEST OF THE EARTH IS RIPE------and verse 18 declares “HER GRAPES ARE FULLY RIPE”.Do you see the pre-tribulation destruction of Babylon in this study? Do you understand that the GREAT TRIBULATION, and the DAY OF THE LORD will follow the destruction of Babylon/U.S.A.?1. The destruction of Damascus [Isaiah:17].2. The destruction of that nation “shadowing with wings [Isaiah 18]”----Babylon of Revelation 14.----- when the” SOUR GRAPE IS RIPENING IN THE VINE”.3. And the GREAT TRIBULATION following the destruction of Babylon.4. The “HARVEST OF THE EARTH WHEN THE GRAPE IS FULLY RIPE”----following the GREAT TRIBULATIONThis is why it is so important to understand the URGENCY to obey the command to FLEE BABYLON as recorded in Revelation 18:4. A destruction will come to America that is repeated over, and over in the writings of Isaiah, Jeremiah, and in the book of Revelation. The evidence would surely convince any jurist of sound reason. Time and again, the Lord warns us of what is to come and COMMANDS US TO FLEE !!

PROPHECY ARTICLE---the pre-tribulation destruction of Babylon/America

2008-11-27T15:25:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

The pre-tribulation destruction of Babylon
Nov 22, 2007 Pre Trib Destruction of BabylonBy Danny McDowellJune 4, 2006“and they [the TEN KINGS who shall arise] shall lay Babylon waste, and burn her withfire, and shall give their kingdom to the Beast, AND PUT THE CHURCH TO FLIGHT” Irenaeus [Against heresies,V.26]"INTRODUCTIONI thought I would put my understanding of future events into a broader apologetic than I have in recent letters. I believe this is a CRITICAL matter in light of current world political, commercial, and military events. Many Christians with a nominal understanding of Bible Prophecy, have an inkling that events currently underway in the middle east are some how prophetic, but they are not quite sure of the context. They have a scattered knowledge of future events that somehow involves Israel, and the Palestinians. They also believe that Russia, Iran, and other Islamic nations will be involved in some kind of conflagration, with Israel at the center of the conflict. Most believe that the Church will be “RAPTURED” prior to these events, so the events themselves hold no real significance to them, hence their lack of interest in those events.Because we; of the Post-Tribulation slant, are fully aware that the Church [at large] will be purified in, and ultimately gathered out of the GREAT TRIBULATIONCOMING EVENTS is important regarding the decisions that we make in the near future. A discourse in Post-Tribulationism would be a pointless endeavor at this time. The time of the GREATDECEPTION, and subsequent “FALLING AWAY” are at hand; and the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, along with various hybrids of Dominionism certainly fit into that afore mentioned departure from the truth. At some point in time we must dust off our heels, and cease our efforts to dissuade them. At that time; God himself will prevent them from turning from THE LIE [II Thess.2:10-11-12]. [Rev.7:13-14],------an understanding of the chronology of certainNow is the time to search the scriptures. Now is the time to discover more than we now know. There is an entity described in the New Testament as-----MYSTERY BABYLON; THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS [Rev.17:5]. She is described as being “THAT GREAT CITY, which rules over the Kings of the Earth” [Rev.17:18, Rev. 18:10,18, and 21]. She is the greatest IMPORT NATION that has ever existed on the face of the whole Earth. Her great seaports DWARF the great seaports of the past. There has never been a city, like THIS great city [Rev.18:18]. Her importance to me as a member of the Body of Christ is revealed in verse 4 of Rev.18 [the discourse on Mystery Babylon]. Who ever, or what ever she [Babylon] represents---------I AM SUPPOSE TO FLEE FROM HER. If her representation in scripture is allegorical, then perhaps my departure is simply a “spiritual departure” or something of a less tangible nature. Perhaps it is something of a “personal matter” rather than a “collective understanding” in the Body Universal. The discovery of the truth of this “matter” is ESSENTIAL to the corresponding reaction in obedience to God.Let’s leave her identity for now, and move on to the chronology of events surrounding MYSTERY BABYLON; THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS.ENTITIES TO DEAL WITHThere are TWO major entities to address in the passage of Rev.17, and 18. They are 1]-----MYSTERY BABYLON, and 2]----THE BEAST. There are also sub-categories to the Beast, i.e. ----seven heads, and ten horns. We need not specifically identify these entities to discover the chronology of events concerning them. We need only to know that they are INDEED separate in their identity, and function. We have already ascertained that MYSTERY BABYLON [the Harlot], is the greatest import “city/or nation” that ever existed. There is no doubt of this.THE BEASTNow we move on to THE BEAST. He has SEVEN HEADS-----and TEN HORNS. There is no hesitance on the part of modern eschatologists to declare the “ABSOLUTE IDENTITY” [in their minds], of the Seven Heads, and Ten Horns. Some explanations are derivatives of the out-dated eschatology of the Church Reformers. History itself has proven them wrong. We will evade their identities for now. We do not NEED to know WHO these sub-entities are. We simply need to know how they are connected to THE WHORE of Rev.17, and 18.THE WHOREWe see in Rev. 17/18, that the Whore is a very PROUD CITY. She declares “I SIT AS A QUEEN, AND SHALL [future tense] SEE NO SORROW” Rev.18:7. This declaration alone causes difficulty in that premise that her demise follows the vast destructions of the Trumpet, and Vial events of Revelation------She “sits as a Queen-----and SHALL SEE NO SORROW”? Hardly the declaration of a nation who has suffered the devastation described under the SEVEN TRUMPETS, and SEVEN VIALS of the book of Revelation. What is her relationship to the BEAST?The BEAST in this passage, is burdened by a RIDER. The RIDER of the BEAST, is none other than THE WHORE [Rev.17:3]. There can be no doubt that there are two individual entities in this passage-----The WHORE, and the BEAST. Their relationship, one to another, becomes obvious as we move on.THE TEN HORNS [of the Beast]The TEN HORNS [ten Kings] of the BEAST [Rev.17:12-13], HATE THE WHOREMAKE HER DESOLATE-------EAT HER FLESH-------and BURN HER WITH FIRE [Rev.17:16---Rev.18:8, Rev.18:17], “for GOD HAS PUT IT INTO THEIR HEARTS TO FULFILL HIS WILL” [Rev.17:17]. Here we must address the reference to Babylon of Rev.16:19 as well. We know that God himself remembers “great Babylon” following the SEVENTH VIAL [Rev.16:19].. We must remember that AN ANGEL; [one of the angels that had poured out a vial in that portion of John’s vision], ---------now talks to John and says “come with me and I will SHOW YOU the judgment of THE GREAT WHORE. Some prophecy students mistakenly believe that the “Babylon of Rev.16:19 is synonymous to MYSTERY BABYLON of Rev. 17, and 18. This is not possible since the destruction of “MYSTERY BABYLON” comes at the hands of TEN KINGS/HORNS of THE BEAST [Rev.17:16-17] at the behest of GOD HIMSELF. The destruction of MYSTERY BABYLON comes at a time when she proudly declares “I SIT AS A QUEEN, AND SHALL SEE NO HARM” [Rev18:7], and her destruction comes IN ONE HOURBabylon of Rev.16:19 simply COMES INTO GOD’S REMEMBERANCEMYSTERY BABYLON” is “burned with fire” at the height of her delusion. More on this to follow. [Rev.17:16]. They shall [Rev.18:8, and 10]! as he concludes his punishment of the earth. It is clear that “A RECAP1] John is shown a WHORE; identified as “MYSTERY BABYLON”2] Babylon is described as “THAT GREAT CITY” that reigns over the Kings of the earth. She has committed whoredoms with those Kings.3] Babylon, [the GREAT CITY], rides upon a BEAST4] The BEAST has SEVEN HEADS, and TEN HORNS5] The TEN HORNS are TEN KINGS who HATE THE WHORE6] The TEN KINGS turn and MAKE HER DESOLATE,----NAKED----- EAT HER FLESH------and BURN HER WITH FIRE.7] Her desolation comes SUDDENLY-----in ONE HOUR/DAYWHO BABYLON IS NOTBabylon IS NOT Rome, or the Roman Church; though the Roman Church is certainly guilty of whoredoms, greed, and the killing of millions of God’s elect in the peak of her power-----------she is certainly NOT in that position today. As a matter of FACT, she [the Roman Church] is the most likely candidate for the FALSE PROPHET, and the FALSE PROPHET will be SUBJECT TO the FIRST BEAST [Rev.13:11-14].Babylon is NOT a WORLDWIDE commercial “SYSTEM”. She is identified in the passage as “THAT GREAT CITY which rules over the Kings of the earth”. She IS NOT, nor will she ever be------THE NEW WORLD ORDER! She will be destroyed by the TEN KINGS of THE BEAST. He-----------THE BEAST-----will be the leader of THE NEW WORLD ORDER after Mystery Babylon has been destroyed; hence the rhetorical question: “WHO SHALL MAKE WAR WITH THE BEAST?”.Babylon is NOT the AMERICAN CHURCH, though the American church can, with certainty, be indicted for TREACHERY, THEFT, MURDER, and THE KILLING OF GOD’S ELECT, both physically, and spiritually. BABYLON THE GREAT is “THAT GREAT CITY which rules over the Kings of the earth”. Babylon is the greatest COMMERCIAL ENTITY the world has ever seen. BABYLON is a CITY/NATION existing prior to the GREAT TRIBULATION [apologetics to follow].WHO THE BEAST IS NOTThe Beast is NOT THE POPE. Such notions are based in Reformation Theology. It is certainly understandable that the Reformers believed that the Bishops of Rome were Anti Christs. After all, they [the reformers] had been persecuted, and murdered by that acclaimed “VICAR OF CHRIST” for such “egregious offences” as actually BAPTISING in a manner compliant with the New Testament, and as we well know-----adherence to the New Testament was/is ANATHEMA to the BISHOPS OF ROME. The Roman Church has been labeled with both titles of “antichrist” and “false prophet” specifically because that heretical institution well deserves both, BUT---------The ROMAN CHURCH IS NOT THE BEAST! The BEAST of Rev.17 is MILITARILY CAPABLE of destroying Mystery Babylon “IN ONE DAY” [Rev. 18:8]. The Roman Church has no such capabilities.The Beast is NOT AMERICA. Some believe that America is THE BEAST of Rev.17. This CANNOT BE! If the BEAST is America, then WHO may I ask, are the TEN HORNS/KINGS of the “American Beast”? How is it that these TEN KINGS of the “American” BEAST, will turn and devour THE WHORE??? Although America certainly fits SOME ASPECTS of the description, and conduct of THE BEAST--------the context of the passage itself [Rev.17/18] dismisses any such notion. Babylon the Great is THAT GREAT CITY------and TEN KINGS will arise to destroy her [Babylon] and give their power UNTO THE BEAST Rev.17:13] who will then persecute THE CHURCH for forty two months. America cannot be THE BEAST!TWO BABYLONS?There are some who boldly proclaim that the “Babylons” of Rev.17, and 18 are separate entities. The most popular view is that Rev, 17 represents “SPIRITUAL BABYLON”---------whereas Rev.18 represents a “NATIONAL BABYLON”. One apologist proclaims: Since John declares “AFTER THESE THINGS I saw another angel come down from heaven--------------“Rev.18:1, this conclusively proves that the events of Rev.17, are separated in time by the events of Rev. 18---------NONSENSE!Rev. 17:1 “the GREAT WHORE that sits on many waters”17:15 “the WATERS which thou sawest, WHERE THE WHORE SITTETH, are PEOPLES, and MULTITUDES, and NATIONS, and TONGUES”17:18 “and the WOMAN that thou sawest IS THAT GREAT CITY which reigneth over THE KINGS OF THE EARTH”.COMPARISONREV.18:10b “saying ALAS----THAT GREAT CITY;GREAT BABYLON”Rev.18:18b “what CITY is like unto this GREAT CITY?”18:21b “thus with violence shall THAT GREAT CITY---BABYLON be thrown down-------“There can be NO DOUBT that the “GREAT CITY” of Rev.17:18 is clearly THESAME as “THAT GREAT CITY” of Rev.18:10----18----and 21-----:”that sits overPEOPLLES, MULTITUDES, NATIONS, TONGUES” Rev.17:18.THE GREAT FORNICATORRev.17:1 “with whom the KINGS OF THE EARTH have committed Fornication-------“Rev.18:3b “and THE KINGS OF THE EARTH have committed Fornication with her----------“Rev.18:9a “and THE KINGS OF THE EARTH who have committed Fornication with her-----------“MADE DRUNK WITH THE WINE OF HER FORNCATIONRev.17:2b “made drunk with the WINE OF HER FORNICATION”Rev.18:3 “for all nations have drunk of the WINE OD THE WRATHOF HER FORNICATION----------“.Rev. 18:23b “for BY THY SORCERIES were all the nations of the earthDeceived-------------------“.Can you see that the Babylon of Rev.17, is CLEARLY the SAME as that of Rev.18? It’s the WHOLE ENCHALADA FOLKS----------CHURCH and STATE. God will put into the hearts of TEN KINGS [world leaders] to “make her desolate, naked, eat her flesh, and BURN HER WITH FIRE” Rev. 17:16, Rev.18:8, Rev.18:18, Rev.18:19. Who ever she is--------------GOD IS TICKED OFF!Rev.17 is an OVERALL PORTRAIT of Mystery Babylon in relation to the BEAST, and the TEN HORNS/KINGDOMS of the BEAST; whereas Rev.18 is an INSIDE LOOK at MYSTERY BABYLON, which allows the reader, as a CITIZEN of BABYLON, to identify her at the END OF THE AGE. How can one heed the command of Rev.18:4, if one does not KNOW of a certainty exactly WHO, or WHAT one is to “FLEE” from? Rev.18 may be of profound interest to the Church Universal, but to the CHURCH [the Elect] of Babylon, it [Rev.18] is profoundly PERSONAL. We, of Babylon, are to FLEE into that Church Universal, which is scattered throughout the earth;. Not to be in COMFORT and wealth as that Laodacean WHORE that has been destroyed within Mystery Babylon, but as the Church of the GREAT TRIBULATION---------to be harassed, and martyred under the heavy hand of THE BEAST, and finally to plea along with our sibling Elect from beneath the ALTER of the FIFTH SEAL-----“how long , O Holy, and True, dost thou NOT judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?”Those who believe that WE who FLEE Babylon, are simple-minded cowards, who “cut and run” when the going gets tough, have spent little time in studying the TRIBULATION OF THE SAINTS. I do not look forward to this great testing [the Great Tribulation]. I am not as brave as some of those who declare with great BRAVADO, that THEY will remain IN BABYLON to it’s destruction----------THEY will NEVER be martyrs, because they will perish in disobedience to Rev.18:4. They may well be raised ----at THE LAST TRUMP, but they will never receive WHITE ROBES with their brethren under the ALTER of the FIFTH SEAL. To me; it is more threatening to FLEE into the GREAT TRIBULATION, than to be SUDDENLY DESTROYED in the catastrophe that will befall BABYLON THE GREAT. Make no mistake-------those who flee Babylon will face THE BEAST---------eyeball to eyeball, and their flight will be for FORTY TWO MONTHS unless shortened through martyrdom.THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLONPre-Trib verses Post-TribNow I’ll attempt a scriptural comparison of Babylon [Rev.17/18,], and Babylon [Rev.16].Babylon Rev.17/18 is DESTROYED BY TEN KINGS. She isA. DesolatedB. NakedC. Flesh eatenD. Burned with fireE. Destroyed in one “hour/day”F. Mourned by the merchants of the earthG. Lamented by the shipping industryH. Forsaken by God’s ElectBabylon Rev.16 is “remembered by God” and there wasA. An earthquakeB. The great city is dividedC. Every island fled awayD. The mountains were not foundMay I ask: Where do God’s “people” FLEE TO [Rev.18:4]-------with all the mountains leveled, and every island has disappeared. Who is it that THE BEAST will “persecute” at THE END of the FORTY TWO MONTHS?Babylon of Rev.17/18 reveals;A. The sea-merchants mourn their losses [18;9-10-15-19]B. There is no mention of grief concerning loss of lifeC. There is NO OTHER destruction mentionedD. It is “the ABUNDANCE OF HER DELICASIES” that is grievedE. TEN KINGS have destroyed herBabylon of Rev.16:18-21 reveals:A. Divided into three partsB. Cities and nations fallC. Islands fled awayD. Mountains fallE. Great hail out of heavenF. Men blaspheme God because of THE HAILCan you see the difference? Do you understand that BABYLON THE GREAT has been destroyed PRIOR TOA. The grievous sores of the 1st vialB. The sea becomes blood “and EVERY LIVING SOUL DIED at the 2nd vialC. The RIVERS and FOUNTAINS became blood at the 3rd vialD. Men are SCORCHED WITH FIRE at the 4th vialE. The KINGDOM OF THE BEAST IS DARKENED, and they gnawed their tongues for their pain under the 5th vialF. The Kings of the earth are gathered for final destructionG. IT IS DONEHow can one believe that BABYLON THE GREAT is simply PERKING ALONG in it’s incredible economy, and stating “I SHALL SEE NO SORROW” while the whole earth is being emptied of man and beast---------and THENand THEN the SEA MERCHANTS mourn her destruction?-------WHAT SEA MERCHANTS?---------EVERY LIVING SOUL in the sea was destroyed under the SECOND VIAL Rev.16:3. Take a good look at the timeline of the FIFTH, and SIXTH TRUMPETS; “that they should be TORMENTED FIVE MONTHS” Rev.9:5b, and “and the four angels were loosed which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, FOR TO SLAY THE THIRD PART OF MEN” Rev.9:15. In these two TRUMPET EVENTS alone, we have ONE AND ONE HALF YEARS OF HORROR described, where A THIRD of mankind are slain. Now picture Babylon the Great; perking right along through these two TRUMPET events; saying “I sit as a queen, AND SHALL SEE NO HARM!”. Not possible! Babylon is destroyed?--------Do you see that a Post-Trib destruction of Babylon the Great is impossible? Just as Irenaeus has stated “TEN KINGS” will destroy Babylon, and give their power unto the BEAST, and he [the Beast] will persecute the Church for FORTY TWO MONTHS.OLD TESTAMENT HINTSMany Prophecy students [myself included] believe that there are numerous passages in the Old Testament which elude to MYSTERY BABYLON of the New Testament. Here are just a couple of those passagesIsaiah 18 “Woe to the nation shadowing with wings---------------Verse 5------“AFORE THE HARVEST, when the BUD IS PERFECT, and the grape is RIPENING IN THE FLOWER, he [God] shall both CUT OFF THE SPRIGS WITH PRUNNING HOOKS, AND TAKE AWAY AND CUT DOWN THE BRANCHES”. To those of you that have studied this prophecy in prophetic context, you are among MANY that believe that this passage alludes to the U.S.A. Note that the preceding chapter describes the destruction of Damascus------IN ONE DAY! Coincidence? I think not. As a result of the coming attacks on Syria, and Iran-----------the WHORE WILL BURN.Isaiah 47 speaks to the SUDDEN DESTRUCTION of the Daughter of BABYLON. The similarities between the Babylon of this passage, and that of Revelation 17/18 are just astounding. Both of these passages describe A SUDDEN DESTRUCTION of Babylon, and in NO WAY resembles that of Rev.16:19.REVELATION 14 CHRONOLOGYRev.14:6 opens a parenthetical revelation to John. What is a “parenthetical” revelation? A “parenthetical” passage is a portion of scripture that seems “LIFTED OUT” of the context of the preceding text for the purpose of ISOLATING a particular message, or point. Perhaps the best example of this would be Rev.12 where the imagery of ISRAEL, CHRIST, SATAN are “LIFTED OUT” of the chronology of the preceding text. This also applies to the events of Rev.14:6 to 11.Verse 6] FIRST ANGEL---the “EVER LASTING GOSPEL” is preached in all The earth.Verse 8] SECOND ANGEL------- “Babylon is fallen, THE GREAT CITY”Verse 9] THIRD ANGEL---------the MARK OF THE BEASTThe chronology of these events leaves no room for doubt. The Gospel is being freely preached in the earth-------TO ALL. Babylon the Great FALLS, and the BEAST KINGDOM arises-------the MARK OF THE BEAST. It simply cannot be circumstantial that THIS PASSAGE [Rev.14:6-10] mirrors EXACTLY the words of Irenaeus posted at the opening of this work. Irenaeus was the disciple of the blessed Polycarp. Polycarp was the disciple of John [the revelator]. Are we to believe that Irenaeus, only one generation removed from the REVELATOR himself, is mistaken in his statement of chronology? Can the views of modern eschatologists be regarded as SUPERIOR to that of the DIRECT APOSTOLIC DECENDANT of JOHN? I think not.WHO IS BABYLON THE GREAT?Whoever she is------the merchants of the earth are going to grieve their lossesWhoever she is------she will be destroyed in ONE DAYWhoever she is-----she is the greatest nation that has ever existed on earth.Whoever she is-----God has come to hate her.Whoever she is------she will NEVER RISE AGAIN.Whoever she is------God has commanded----COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE”.“and they [the ten kings that shall arise] shall lay Babylon waste, and burn her with fire, and shall give their kingdom to the Beast, AND PUT THE CHURCH TO FLIGHT” Irenaeus----disciple of Polycarp,-----disciple of John. .“and there was given unto him [the Beast] a mouth speaking great things, and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue FORTY AND TWO MONTHS; and he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle [the Church], and them that dwell in heaven; and it was given unto him to make WAR WITH THE SAINTS, and to overcome them, and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, AND NATIONS, and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world” Revelation 13:5-10.THE DAY OF THE LORDThe DAY OF THE LORD:A. Comes with “DARKNESS and NO LIGHT”B. The POWERS OF THE HEAVENS ARE SHAKENC. MEN ARE HIDING IN THE ROCKS OF THE EARTHD. GOD ALONE SHALL JUDGE IN THAT DAYE. ALL HEARTS will fail with fearF. It is FUTILE to attempt to escape that daySee http://propheticoutreach.blogspot.com/2007/10/wrath-of-god.html ---“THE WRATH OF GOD”It is simply UNREASONABLE to believe that BABYLON Rev.17/18 is in existence AFTER, or during the DAY OF THE LORD--------“I sit as a QUEEN, and SHALL SEE NO SORROWS”?? She will be destroyed PRIOR TO the FORTY TWO MONTHS of the reign of Anti-Christ.GOG----MAGOGIt is my belief that Babylon will be destroyed at the opening of the Gog/Magog conflict. It is clear to me that Israel is ON HER OWN at the outset of this war. There is absolutely NOTHING to indicate that “AMERICA” is RESISTING an ALL OUT ASSAULT on Israel. Can we believe that America stands IDLY BY as the Islamic hoards of Ezekiel 38 come CRASHING across IRAN, IRAQ, and SYRIA to invade Israel without even a PUFF of resistance?------and yet THAT is what MUST HAPPEN if America has not been dealt with prior to this massive troop movement across the deserts, and into Israel. That scenario is BEYOND REASON. Some have suggested that when God “calls for a sword” against Gog-----that this “SWORD” is in fact AMERICA. So now I am to believe that AmericaALLOWS MAGOG to destroy TWO THIRDS of the Jewish NationAmerica is NOT IN THIS PASSAGE because America has been NEUTRALIZED at the outset of the GOG/MAGOG conflict. There is an abundance of scripture to support this position, but my focus is in the Book of Revelation, so I will not expound further regarding Gog/Magog and America. sits by and before entering into the conflict-------------NONSENSE!It is not my intention to open debate, or discussion as to the identity of MYSTERY BABYLON, or the chronology of events concerning her. I simply ask that you read , and consider this paper. I do not portend to hold the truth in all things of Bible prophecy. I do however, place my belief system in subjection to the “emphatic” of the Word of God, and attempt to use the “vague” as a “filler” around the results of my discoveries.I do not wish to offend those who disagree with this chronology of events, My concern is in regard to “TIMING”. How much “TIME” is there remaining? How long do we [the Elect of God] have to go over, and over this topic of MYSTERY BABYLON ? If you have decided [as I], that the United States of America is IN FACT--------MYSTERY BABYLON, then your NEXT DISCOVERY should certainly be “WHEN” in the eschatological scheme of things, Babylon will fall. I hope this paper can help you in this decision.Danny McDowellPosted by PropheticOutreach

PROPHECY ARTICLE---America/Babylon

2008-11-27T15:22:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Jeremiah/Revelation 18 study
Feb 29, 2008 Jeremiah StudyJEREMIAH STUDYI truly tried to find the author of this paper but could not. It is an excellent comparison study and far better than my own. If the author comes across this article, please inform me and I will place your name at the heading of this wonderful piece. Danny McDowell http://www.ibhyecj@msn.com http://bibleprophecynt.blogspot.netJeremiah 51Flee from Babylon, Destruction Is ComingSee note about connections with Revelation.The Lord will be against Babylon; destroyers will come 1Flee to avoid being cut off for her iniquity 6God will fulfill His purpose 11People of Babylon are unwise 17She is my battle axe but I will repay her 20The destroying mountain 25Lift a banner against her; prepare the nations 30Daughter of Babylon 33Babylon has devoured us; the Lord will defend 34Come out of her; run for your lives 45Babylon falls because of Israel's slain and holy places entered 49The Lord will punish her; He will silence her; officials drunk 54Walls and gates destroyed 58Jeremiah's instructions for reading the scroll; then throwing it into the river 59TextComments.1 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind;2 And will send unto Babylon fanners, that shall fan her, and shall empty her land: for in the day of trouble they shall be against her round about..3 Against him that bendeth let the archer bend his bow, and against him that lifteth himself up in his brigandine: and spare ye not her young men; destroy ye utterly all her host.4 Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, and they that are thrust through in her streets.5 For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel.-.6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence..7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD'S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad..8 Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed..9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies..10 The LORD hath brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of the LORD our God.6 - Not cut off in her iniquity re1804.6 - Vengeance See on je5015.7 - Babylon ... made earth drunken ... mad As end-time Babylon will soon do re1702.8 - Babylon ... suddenly fallen re1810, re1819.9 - Judgment reacheth unto heaven re1805., ge1104..11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.12 Set up the standard upon the walls of Babylon, make the watch strong, set up the watchmen, prepare the ambushes: for the LORD hath both devised and done that which he spake against the inhabitants of Babylon.-.13 O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness..14 The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers; and they shall lift up a shout against thee.15 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding..16 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens; and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth: he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.13 - Abundant in treasures re1817.13 - Thine end is come re1821ff.16 - He uttereth his voice Compare "There came a voice out of the temple" re1617b..17 Every man is brutish by his knowledge; every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.18 They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.19 The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.-.20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;.21 And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;22 With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;23 I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; and with thee will I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers..24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.20 - Verses 20-25 are quoted in connection with Dan. 1 da0101..25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain..26 And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the LORD..27 Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.28 Prepare against her the nations with the kings of the Medes, the captains thereof, and all the rulers thereof, and all the land of his dominion.29 And the land shall tremble and sorrow: for every purpose of the LORD shall be performed against Babylon, to make the land of Babylon a desolation without an inhabitant.25 - Burnt mountain Burned with fire re1716ea, re1808de, je5032. The mountain may be seen as in competition with the mountain of the Lord.27 - Standard See on nu2108..30 The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.31 One post shall run to meet another, and one messenger to meet another, to shew the king of Babylon that his city is taken at one end,32 And that the passages are stopped, and the reeds they have burned with fire, and the men of war are affrighted.30 - Forborn to fight Two cuneiform records describe this fall of Babylon. Both confirm the minimal resistance. This was the night of Belshazzar's fall. da05, je5043..33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.-.34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say..36 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her springs dry.37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lions' whelps.39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.40 I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats..41 How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised! how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations!.42 The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.43 Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby..44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.42 - Sea Or River Nile. See na0308.42 - Sea is come up upon Babylon ... covered re1821. Also v63f.44 - Bel The chief god of Babylon is4601..45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD..46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD.45 My people, go ye out re1804. Also v6..49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth.50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.51 We are confounded, because we have heard reproach: shame hath covered our faces: for strangers are come into the sanctuaries of the LORD'S house.-.52 Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD.-.54 A sound of a cry cometh from Babylon, and great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans:55 Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:56 Because the spoiler is come upon her, even upon Babylon, and her mighty men are taken, every one of their bows is broken: for the LORD God of recompences shall surely requite.57 And I will make drunk her princes, and her wise men, her captains, and her rulers, and her mighty men: and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of hosts.57 - Perpetual sleep and not wake This is the second death re2108..58 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, and her high gates shall be burned with fire; and the people shall labour in vain, and the folk in the fire, and they shall be weary.-.59 ¶ The word which Jeremiah the prophet commanded Seraiah the son of Neriah, the son of Maaseiah, when he went with Zedekiah the king of Judah into Babylon in the fourth year of his reign. And this Seraiah was a quiet prince.60 So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that should come upon Babylon, even all these words that are written against Babylon. 61 And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, When thou comest to Babylon, and shalt see, and shalt read all these words;59 - The word which Jeremiah Notice that the prophet's actions are in the third person. Another inspired writer may have added this part or at least the last sentence in verse 64..62 Then shalt thou say, O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever..63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah

Prophecy Article----why I no longer believe in SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION

2008-11-27T15:19:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Why I no longer believe in SEVEN YEARS of tribulation
May 27, 2008 Why I No Longer Believe in the 7 Years of TribulationWhy I no longer believe in-------SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION.For more than twenty five years I was a staunch pre-tribulationist. You can read my testimony at http://www.propheticoutreach.blogspot.com . After reading the “Pre Wrath Rapture” by Marvin Rosenthal in 1998, I began a search for the truth regarding Bible Prophesy, and in particular------Bible Eschatology. I had known as much, or maybe more, about the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, that most PEW SHEEP in the “church” of America. I knew all about the “Seventieth Week of Daniel”, and the source of that late eschatology. The whole “SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION” hinges on Daniel 9:27, and the revelation by an Angel that reads as such-----“and he shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK [of years], and in the MIDST of the week [Shabbat—7], he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease”. This verse has been translated by modern eschatologists to mean that the future ANTICHRIST will cause the [re-instituted] sacrifice [in the Tribulation Temple], to cease in the “midst” of the “seventieth week of Daniel” which is a FUTURE------SEVEN YEAR EVENT. Multitudes, upon multitudes, of books have been written about this particular eschatology. It has become so pervasive in contemporary Christianity so as to cause the words “seven years of tribulation” to spill off the lips of even the LEAST of prophecy students as cliché as “cleanliness is next to godliness”---------and just as un-biblical!Let’s begin at the beginning; This same angel of the book of Daniel declares “seventy weeks [shabuah Shabbat/ 70-7s] are determined upon THY PEOPLE [the JEWS], and upon THY HOLY CITY [Jerusalem], to-----1. finish the transgression2. make an end of sins3. make reconciliation for iniquity4. bring in everlasting righteousness5. seal up the vision and prophecy6. anoint the most HolyThen the passage goes on to say: “know therefore and understand---------that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, UNTO MESSIAH THE PRINCE shall beA. seven weeks [seven 7’s]B. three score and two weeks [sixty two 7’s]l“the streets shall be built again, even in troublous times”. The streets were repaired during the FIRST WEEK [seven years] of the decree.C. And AFTER [the] THREE SCORE AND TWO WEEKS [sixty two 7’s] shall Messiah be CUT OFF---------but NOT FOR HIMSELF” Now here is where the confusion begins as the passage begins a description of the destruction of the SECOND TEMPLE [Herod’s Temple] in 70 ad.D. “and the people of THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city, and the sanctuary------“We’ll stop here for a close examination of this portion of the passage. WHO, may I ask,-----will destroy the Temple? It is “THE PEOPLE of the PRINCE TO COME” ! Now-----WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?----------They are the Syrian Wing of the ROMAN ARMY! That is an historical FACT!! Jesus prophesied this event just before he was sacrificed on the stauros. NOW-----------who was the PRINCE of these ROMAN TROOPS?---------IT WAS TITUS--------that is also AN HISTORICAL FACT, and yet modern eschatologists would have us to believe that this portion of the passage somehow LEAPS through a TWO THOUSAND YEAR gap between the “PEOPLE” who destroy the Temple, and their PRINCE-----who history shows to be the ROMAN PRINCE/GENERAL named TITUS. Let’s return to the passage:E. “and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war; desolations are determined”Other translations say “and UNTO THE END----desolations are determined”. NOW we have a legitimate “GAP” since “DESOLATIONS ARE DETERMINED UNTO THE END-------------end of WHAT?----------the SEVENTY WEEKS!F. “and he [a personal pronoun] shall confirm the covenant with many-------“The pronoun “he” refers to the LAST identifiable PERSONAL PROPER NOUN of the passage. This linguistic rule applies both to English, and Hebrew. The LAST identifiable PERSONAL PROPER NOUN of this passage is----------------MESSIAH! IT IS MESSIAH THAT CAUSED THE SACRIFICE and oblations FOR SIN----------TO CEASE, when he cried out------“IT IS FINISHED”, and the veil that separates the Holy Place from the HOLY OF HOLIES was RIPPED -----------TOP TO BOTTOM! Heb 10:2For then would they not HAVE CEASED TO BE OFFERED? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.It is clear in this passage that the SACRIFICES HAD CEASED to be offered, even before the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. When the veil of the Temple was rent TOP to BOTTOM---------the sacrifices CEASED !Hos 3:4-54 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without king or prince, WITHOUT A SACRIFICE or sacred pillar, without ephod or teraphim. 5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They shall fear the LORD and His goodness IN THE LATTER DAYS NKJVHos 6:1-3Come, and let us return to the LORD;For He has torn, but He will heal us;He has stricken, but He will bind us up.2 After TWO DAYS He will revive us;On the third day He will raise us up,That we may live in His sight.NKJVThese verses clearly speak of the days of desolation determined on the Jewish people, their ability to sacrifice, and their Temple-----FOR TWO MILLINIAL DAYS as evidenced in the passage. -------from the days of Hosea----to THE LATTER DAYS.HE-----------------MESSIAH--------caused the sacrifice for sin to CEASE!!------and desolations [for Jerusalem] were determined UNTO THE END!Gal 3:15-1815 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.17 And this I say , that the COVENANT THAT WAS CONFIRMED BEFORE OF GOD IN CHRIST, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.KJVThis COVENANT was confirmed in the ENTIRETY of the seventieth week, consummated at the stauros-------and will be realized fully to Israel WHEN THEY SEE HIM coming in the clouds of glory. This is the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27And now to the SEVENTIETH WEEK OF DANIELIn 458 B.C., the decree of Artaxerxes went forth to rebuild Jerusalem [Ezera 7:11-16]. Ezra 7:12-8:112 Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace, and at such a time.13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.14 Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven counsellers, to inquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according to the law of thy God which is in thine hand;15 And to carry the silver and gold, which the king and his counsellers have freely offered unto the God of Israel, whose habitation is in Jerusalem,16 And all the silver and gold that thou canst find in all the province of Babylon, with the freewill offering of the people, and of the priests, offering willingly for the house of their God which is in Jerusalem:17 That thou mayest buy speedily with this money bullocks, rams, lambs, with their meat offerings and their drink offerings, and offer them upon the altar of the house of your God which is in Jerusalem.18 And whatsoever shall seem good to thee, and to thy brethren, to do with the rest of the silver and the gold, that do after the will of your God.19 The vessels also that are given thee for the service of the house of thy God, those deliver thou before the God of Jerusalem.20 And whatsoever more shall be needful for the house of thy God, which thou shalt have occasion to bestow, bestow it out of the king's treasure house.21 And I, even I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which are beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily,22 Unto an hundred talents of silver, and to an hundred measures of wheat, and to an hundred baths of wine, and to an hundred baths of oil, and salt without prescribing how much.23 Whatsoever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be diligently done for the house of the God of heaven: for why should there be wrath against the realm of the king and his sons?24 Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.25 And thou, Ezra, after the wisdom of thy God, that is in thine hand, set magistrates and judges, which may judge all the people that are beyond the river, all such as know the laws of thy God; and teach ye them that know them not.26 And whosoever will not do the law of thy God, and the law of the king, let judgment be executed speedily upon him, whether it be unto death, or to banishment, or to confiscation of goods, or to imprisonment.27 Blessed be the LORD God of our fathers, which hath put such a thing as this in the king's heart, to beautify the house of the LORD which is in Jerusalem:28 And hath extended mercy unto me before the king, and his counsellers, and before all the king's mighty princes. And I was strengthened as the hand of the LORD my God was upon me, and I gathered together out of Israel chief men to go up with me.This was the BIRTH POINT of the SEVENTY WEEKS OF DANIEL as revealed in Daniel 9:24. Adding the initial “SEVEN WEEKS [49 years]” for “rebuilding the streets”, to the following SIXTY TWO WEEKS [of years], we arrive at a total of SIXTY NINE weeks of years or------7 X 69 = 483 years from that decree, to the BAPTISM of Messiah in Jordan [Tishri 15/Tabernacles] in the year 26 a.d. [Luke 3:21-23 “and he began to be about THIRTY YEARS OLD”],------- having discovered the BIRTHDATE OF MESSIAH in Luke 1 and 2--------TABERNACLES, and confirmed in Luke 3:21-23, This baptism in Jordan was the beginning of the SEVENTIETH WEEK OF DANIEL---------and in the MIDST OF THE WEEK [three and one half years of Messiah’s ministry]---HE---------MESSIAH--------CAUSED THE SACRIFICE for sin TO CEASE-------and desolations were determined TO THE END. The FIRST HALF of the 70th week was fulfilled in Christ’s ministry, and death. We have ONLY the SECOND HALF of the week remaining to be fulfilled. If you doubt this, then I encourage you to find “SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION” in your New Testament-------GO AHEAD----------JUST TRY. AH AH now, don’t try adding together, those passages in Rev. [time, times, and a half----forty two months-----and “three and one half years”]. It is VERY CLEAR that these three time frames are SYNONOMOUS. FACT: There is not one reference to “SEVEN YEARS” of tribulation in the New Testament. Listen to the voice of the angel of the book of Daniel:Dan 11:30-3230 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.Tell me this:------WHAT ABOMINATION [singular] WAS EVER SET UP IN THE PASSAGE OF DANIEL 9:27 ?-----it states “for the overspreading of ABOMINATIONS [plural]-----it shall be desolate”. ABOMINATIONS------PLURAL. The reference to Antichrist speaks of the ABOMINATION------SINGULAR-------being SET UP ! Do you see the STARK DIFFERENCE ?KJVDan 12:6 - Hos 1:16 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.KJVIt is abundantly clear that the time of TRIBULATION will be THREE AND ONE HALF YEARS. A “SEVEN YEAR” tribulation is FICTIONAL. That is why there is no mention of “seven years” in the most profound record of scriptural eschatology that we can rely on---------that being---Matthew 24/ Mark 13, the Olivette Discourse..When Antichrist is revealed:Matt 24:15-2215 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.KJVAND2 Thess 2:1-42 Thessalonians 22:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.KJVSIR ROBERT ANDERSONMuch of the doctrine concerning a “seven year” peace covenant for the safety, and protection of Israel---------confirmed by Antichrist himself-----is the contrivance of Sir Robert Anderson. This eschatological SPIN was adopted into pre-tribulationism as that late eschatology took root, and eventually became the dominant force in the American church. Sir Robert is esteemed as NEAR TO GENIUS in his works in Bible apologetics. One OUTRAGEOUS work that he has done, is to proclaim the LAST SUPPER, as the Passover Seder-------and the crucifixion of Christ on the FIRST DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD [15 Nissan], which completely disregards MOUNTAINS of scriptural evidence otherwise. It is clear to me that Sir Robert postulates PRIOR to his studies, and craftily weaves his apologetics into his outrageous scenarios. Having said this ----------the challenge remains---------WHERE DO YOU FIND A “PEACE TREATY FOR SEVEN YEARS” in your New Testament? WHERE DO YOU FIND “SEVEN YEARS” AT ALL?MATTHEW HENRYMatthew Henry [though a historicist] certainly exceeds the “genius” of one Robert Anderson. He, AS MANY OTHERS, recognized the MINISTRY of CHRIST as being the FIRST HALF of the Seventieth Week. Of course he errs, as do ALL historicists, in concluding that the entire 70th week is an historic event.COINCIDENCE?Is it simply a COINCIDENCE that the ministry of Jesus began at Jordan ON HIS THIRTIETH BIRTHDAY, and that his baptism occurred at the conclusion of the SIXTY NINTH WEEK?. Is it mere HAPPENSTANCE that he was crucified EXACTLY THREE AND ONE HALF YEARS LATER----------TO THE DAY---------HALF THE WEEK! It is beyond MY mental ability to DISMISS such evidence. Is it some sort of FREEK EVENT, that the veil of the Holy Place was torn top to bottom exactly three and one half years from that time when the Spirit of God descended upon Messiah at Jordan? TOO MUCH-----JUST TOO MUCH for me to believe that these things are coincidence.ALL OF THESE THINGS------All of these things MUST OCCUR INSIDE the Seventy Weeks!A. finish the transgressionB. end sinC. Reconciliation for iniquity [Is.53:4-5]Isa 53:66 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him THE INIQUITY OF US ALL.KJVSome proclaim that these Messianic verses of Daniel 9, are concluded at the END OF THE AGE, as Israel is collectively redeemed. Let’s see what the New Testament says; 1 Peter 2:24-2524 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: BY WHOSE STRIPES WE ARE HEALED[a reference to Isaiah 53] .KJV ------------This is a CLEAR reference to the historicity of the fulfillment of that RECONCILLIATION promised WITHIN the Seventy Weeks of Daniel. It is therefore IMPOSSIBLE that the sacrifice of Messiah could be OUTSIDE the 70th Week--------and within that renowned “GAP”.1 Cor 15:3-43 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;KJVGal 1:4-54 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:KJVHeb 1:3-43 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;KJV1 Peter 2:24-2524 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.KJV1 John 1:9-109 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.KJV1 John 2:2-32 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.KJV1 John 3:5-65 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.KJV1 John 4:10-1110 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.KJVRev 1:5-65 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,KJVD. bring in everlasting righteousnessE. seal up the vision and prophecy [Jn.19:30] “IT IS FINISHED”F. and to anoint the most HolyJohn 1:32-3332 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.KJVLuke 3:22-2322 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.KJVMark 1:10-1110 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:KJVMatt 3:16-1716 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:Luke 4:18-1918 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, BECAUSE HE HATH ANOINTED ME to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised.19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.-------“AND TO ANNOINT THE MOSTHOLY”--------DAN.9KJVTHE GAPRemember that the angel that spoke to Daniel revealed that the above CRITERIA for the mission of Messiah --------MUST TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE SEVENTY WEEKS! In modern eschatology, there is a TWO THOUSAND YEAR GAP between the end of the Sixty Ninth Week-----and the beginning of Seventieth Week. Since the 69th week ended BEFORE Christ’s crucifixion---------this places the REDEMPTION OF MANKIND ----------IN THE GAP! There can be no redemption outside the Seventy Weeks-----hence, No redemption at all.Of course we know that we have been redeemed at the Stauros-------the crucifixion. The question is; Was this redemption acquired INSIDE the Seventy Weeks-------or in that now renowned “GAP”?THE TRIBULATIONIt is clearly stated in the Old, and New Testaments; that the demarcation point for the Tribulation is the ABOMINATION spoken of by Daniel. Jesus emphasizes; “let the reader UNDERSTAND”! There is NO “SEVEN YEAR PEACE COVENANT” for the “safety, and protection of Israel”, This is nothing but non-biblical drivel which has been published abroad. Isaiah clearly refers to a COVENANT WITH HELL-------but NEVER attaches a “SEVEN YEAR” timeframe to that covenant.Isa 28:1515 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:KJV-----------NOTHING of a “SEVEN YEAR PEACE COVENANT”!This is why it is critical to understand NOT ONLY, that Babylon will be destroyed prior to the Great Tribulation, but the Gog/Magog conflict will take the world QUICKLY into the GREAT TRIBULATION as Antichrist rises to SAVE THE WORLD from chaos, and to persecute the Church for forty two months.A LIKELY SCENERIOThe most likely scenario follows;1. America/ Babylon attacks Iran [Persia of Ezek.38]2. Syria attacks Israel under their alliance with Iran3. Israel retaliates with a devastating nuclear reprisal [Isaiah 17]4. America/Babylon burns under an all out nuclear attack [Rev.!7:16-17]promoted by TEN [would be] kings.5. The Gog/Magog war begins [Ezek 38]. America has been neutralized [Ezek 38:10-12, Isaiah 18, Rev. 17:16-17]6. Antichrist/the Beast intervenes and saves Israel from Islamic annihilation[Ezek.38:21]7. Israel begins to build the THIRD TEMPLE, and sacrifices begin8. Antichrist desecrates that Temple and STOPS THE DAILY OBLATIONS [Dan.11:30-31]Dan 11:30-3130 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.KJV9. . Just as Jesus caused the sacrifices for sin to CEASE in the midst of the Seventieth week-------------Antichrist will STOP THE [re-instituted] SACRIFICES. and abominate the Temple [or Tabernacle], and cause the final HALF of the week to run to it’s conclusion.10. The GREAT TRUBULATION beginsBURN WITH FIRE FOR SEVEN YEARSEzek 39:9-109 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GODKJVIt has been suggested that the Ezekiel account of Israel burning the weapons of Gog for “seven years” is a STRONG INDICATION that following the destruction of the Gog forces, there will be a “peace agreement” for seven years, and that it is during THIS “seven years” that Israel will be burning the remains of those abandoned weapons of the Gog forces. I would like to point out some challenges to this proposal.1. Jesus said to those in Judea: “when you see that abomination”-----FLEE. Don’t turn back for ANYTHING.Matt 24:15-2215 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.KJV2. The book of Revelation tells us clearly that Israel will be in HIDING in the “wilderness”, where God has a place prepared for them to survive for the duration of the Great Tribulation.Rev 12:5-17 [5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.KJV* It seems unlikely that the Jewish people will be burning such a vast array of arms during that time when they will be in FLIGHT from the agents of Antichrist. I believe that these “arms” will be destroyed during the first seven years of the Millennial Reign. The earth will undergo a massive restoration during this time, and the Land of Jacob must undergo that cleansing as well.Rev.13:5-95 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue FOURTY AND TWO MONTHS.6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.KJV* In this passage there is described a time-frame of FOURTY TWO MONTHS in which Antichrist will reign.Rev 11:2-32 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.KJV* In this passage it is clearly indicated that the “TEMPLE” has been re-built at this point, which clearly places the timing of this command BEYOND the point of an alleged “Peace agreement” which begins an alleged “SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION”. What is the significance of these passages?-----They clearly indicate that the THREE AND ONE HALF YEARS thrice mentioned in the book of Revelation are EMPHATICALLY-------SYNONOMOUS ! Why is this important to know?-----Because there are those who, in a desperate attempt to DEMONSTRATE a “seven year tribulation”, will attempt to conjoin TWO of the three time-frames mentioned, in order to reach a SUM of “seven years”. A careful reading of the three references will clearly demonstrate that these three time references are synonymous----------and that there is NOT ONE SINGLE REFERENCE TO “SEVEN YEARS “ OF TRIBULATION IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION, or indeed----the entire New Testament----------NONE !!To those who scoff at this eschatology I say---------WHERE IS YOUR SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION in the New Testament? Christ fulfilled the FIRST HALF of the 70th week in his ministry from Tabernacles, 26 ad-------to his crucifixion, Passover 30 ad----------EXACTLY----------HALF THE WEEK! Just as Israel had FORTY YEARS in the wilderness, to work through their rebellion to God, so also the Jews of Jerusalem had EXACTLY----------FORTY YEARS---------[from Nisan 14, ad 30,-------- to Nisan 14, ad 70 when the army of Titus surrounded the city just as Jesus had prophesied]----to repent of their sins--------but they refused, hence--------the destruction of 70 ad., and the NINETEEN HUNDRED YEARS of exileTime will vindicate. It always does. If there is a “SEVEN YEAR COVENANT” which is betrayed at the midpoint---------and there is a Temple abomination at that time--------Oh Well-----been wrong before! BUT------IF THIS ESCHATOLOGY that I have presented IS CORRECT, then you are headed at LIGHT SPEED toward the GREAT TRIBULATION.Danny McDowell

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HERESIES of the WORD-FAITH MOVEMENT

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Heresies Of The Word-Faith Movement
These examples and many, many others can be demonstrated from the materials produced by the Word-Faith teachers.
The deification of man. In Faith theology man was created as an exact duplicate of God, including size and shape.
· Kenneth Hagin asserts, "Man…was created on terms of equality with God, and he could stand in God’s presence without any consciousness of inferiority…God has made us as much like Himself as possible…He made us the same class of being that He is Himself…Man lived in the realm of God. He lived on terms equal with God…The believer is called Christ…That’s who we are; we’re Christ!" (Kenneth M. Hagin, Zoe: The God-Kind of Life (Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, Inc., 1989), 35-36, 41.
· Kenneth Copeland declares that "God’s reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself…He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even." (Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham I (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989), tape #01-3001, side 1.
· Televangelist John Avanzini claims that the Spirit of God "declared in the earth today what the eternal purpose of God has been through the ages…that He is duplicating Himself on earth." (John Avanzini with Morris Cerullo, The Endtime Manifestation of the Sons of God, (San Diego: Morris Cerullo World Evangelism, n.d.), audiotape 1, side 2.
· Morris Cerullo bellows, "Did you know that from the beginning of time the whole purpose of God was to reproduce Himself?…Who are you? Come on, who are you? Come on, say it: ‘Sons of God!’ Come on, say it! And what does work inside us, brother, is that manifestation of the expression of all that God is and all that God has. And when we stand up here, brother, you’re not looking at Morris Cerullo; you’re looking at God. You’re looking at Jesus." (Morris Cerullo, The Endtime Manifestation of the Sons of God, (San Diego: Morris Cerullo World Evangelism, n.d.), audiotape 1, sides1 & 2.
The Faith teachings have now become so blasphemous and bizarre that even cultists are denying them. For example, Mormon scholar and author Stephen E. Robinson, referring to the Faith teachers, says: "Now, in fact, the Latter-day Saints would not agree with the doctrine of deification as understood by most of these evangelists, for in the LDS view we receive the full divine inheritance only through the atonement of Christ and only after a glorious resurrection." (Stephen E. Robinson, Are Mormons Christians? (Salt Lake City, UT: Bookcraft, 1991), 63.
· When Kenneth Copeland proclaims, "You don’t have a god in you, you are one," and Benny Hinn pronounces, "I am a ‘little messiah’ walking on earth," we can only conclude that they are teaching rank heresy. (Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Love (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987), audiotape #02-0028, side 1.) and (Benny Hinn, Praise-a-Thon program on TBN (November 6, 1990).
Faith teachers are polytheists.
· TBN president Paul Crouch put it, "I am a little god! Critics, be gone!" (Paul Crouch, Praise the Lord program on TBN (July 7, 1986).
· According to Benny Hinn, "Adam was a super being when God created him. I don’t know whether people know this, but he was the first Superman that really ever lived. First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea—which menas he used to fly. Of course, how can he have dominion over the birds and not be able to do what they do? The word "dominion" in the Hebrew clearly declares that if you have dominion over a subject, that you do everything that subject does. In other words, that subject, if it does someting you cannot do, you don’t have dominion over it. I’ll prove it further. Adam not only flew, he flew to space. He was—with one thought he would be on the moon." (Benny Hinn, Praise the Lord program on TBN (December 26, 1991).
The demotion of God. The Faith movement not only deifies man but also demotes God to the beck and call of His creation.
· Kenneth Copeland claims that God is "A being that is very uncanny the way He’s very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6’-2", 6’-3", that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better, [and] has a [hand] span of nine inches across." (Kenneth Copeland, Spirit, Soul and Body I (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1985), audiotape #01-0601, side 1.
· Jerry Savelle elaborates on Copeland’s teachings when he says: "He is measured out heaven with a nine-inch span…The distance between my thumb and my finger is not quite nine inches. So, I know He’s bigger than me, thank God. Amen? But He’s not some great, big, old thing that couldn’t come through the door there and, you know, when He sat down, would fill every seat in the house. I don’t serve the Glob." (Jerry Savelle, Framing Your World with the Word of God, Part 2 (Fort Worth, TX: Jerry Savelle Evangelistic Association, Inc., n.d.), audiotape #SS-36, side 1.
· Morris Cerullo says, "As I lay there on the floor in this condition, my spirit was taken out of my body and the next thing I knew, I was in the heavens…Suddenly, in front of this tremendous multitude of people, the glory of God appeared. The Form that I saw was about the height of a man six feet tall, maybe a little taller, and twice as broad as a human body with no distinguishing features such as eyes, nose, or mouth." (Morris Cerullo, The Miracle Book (San Diego, CA: Cerullo Word Evangelism, Inc., 1984), x-xi.
· Says Benny Hinn, "I could almost visibly see the Lord, and I cold tell you what He was wearing." Jan Crouch, giddy about Hinn’s statement, asks, "Was that the Holy Spirit?" Acknowledging that he may get in trouble, Hinn resolutely answers "yes." (Benny Hinn and Jan Crouch, Praise the Lord program on TBN (October 3, 1991).
· Hinn made the following statement, "Man, I feel revelation knowledge already coming on me here. Life your hands. Something new is going to happen here today. I felt it just as I waled down here. Holy Spirit, take over in the name of Jesus…God the Father, ladies and gentlemen, is a person; and He is a triune being by Himself separate from the Son and the Holy Ghost. Say, what did you say? Hear it, hear it, hear it. See, God the Father is a person, God the Son is aperson, God the Holy Ghost is a person. But each one of them is a triune being by Himself. If I can shock you—and maybe I should—there’s nine of them. Huh, what did you say? Let me explain: God the Father, ladies and gentlemen, is a person with his own personal spirit, with his own personal soul, and his own personal spirit-body. You say, Huh, I never heard that. Well you think you’re in this church to hear things you’ve heard for the last 50 years?" (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn program on TBN (October 3, 1991).
· Two years after his initial "revelation," Hinn once again voiced virtually the same statement. As he puts it, "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost—three separate individuals, one in essence, one in work—and, may I add, each one of them possess His own spirit-body. You don’t like it?" (Benny Hinn, Praise the Lord program on TBN (October 23, 1992).
· Kenneth Copeland said, "I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is…The biggest one in the whole Bible is God…Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure. And you’re not a failure till you say you’re one." (Kenneth Copeland, Praise-a-Thon program on TBN (April 1988). He also said, "Adam committed high treason; and at that point, all the dominion and authority God had given to him was handed over to Satan. Suddenly, God was on the outside looking in…After Adam’s fall, God found Himself in a peculiar position…God needed an avenue back into the earth…God laid out His proposition and Abram accepted it. It gave God access to the earth and gave man access to God..Technically, if God ever broke the Covenant, He would have to destroy Himself." (Kenneth Copeland, Our Covenant with God (Fort Worth, TX: KCP Publications, 1987), 8-11 passim.
The deification of Satan. Satan is deified as the God this world and is positioned with so much power that he could manage to "turn the light off in God."
· Benny Hinn said, "God came from heaven, became a man, made man into little gods, went back to heaven as a man. He faces the Father as a man. I face devils as the son of God..Quit your nonsense! What else are you? If you say, I am, you’re saying I’m a part of Him, right? Is he God? Are you His offspring? Are you His children? You can’t be human! You can’t! You can’t! God didn’t give birth to flesh…You said, "Well, that’s heresy." No, that’s your crazy brain saying that." (Benny Hinn, Our Position in Christ #2—The Word Made Flesh (Orlando: Orlando Christian Center, 1991), videotape #255.
· Kenneth Copeland is willing to give ownership of the earth to Satan: "God’s on the outside looking in. He doesn’t have any legal entree into the earth. The thing don’t belong to Him. You see how sassy the Devil was in the presence of God in the book of Job? God said, Where have you been? Wasn’t any of God’s business. He [Satan] didn’t even have to answer if he didn’t want to ..God didn’t argue with him a bit! You see, this is the position that God’s been in…Might say, ‘Well, if God’s running things He’s doing a lousy job of it." He hadn’t been running ‘em, except when He’s just got, you know, a little bit of a chance." (Kenneth Copeland, Image of God in You III (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989), audiotape #01-1403, side 1.
· Copeland goes on to say, "The Bible says that God gave this earth to the sons of men…and when [Adam] turned and gave that dominion to Satan, look where it left God. If left Him on the outside looking in…He had no legal right to do anything about it, did He?…He had injected Himself illegally into the earth—what Satan had intended for Him to do was to fall for it—pull off an illegal act and turn the light off in God, and subordinate God to himself…He intended to get God into such a trap that He couldn’t get out." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017.
The demotion of Christ. The Faith movement compromises the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ.
· Consider this statement by Kenneth Copeland: "[Adam] was the copy, looked just like [God]. If you stood Adam upside God, they look just exactly alike. If yo stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and sound exactly alike." (Kenneth Copeland, Authority of the Believer IV (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987), audiotape #01-0304, side 1.
· Jesus Christ supposedly told Copeland in the following prophecy: "Don’t be disturbed when people put you down and speak harshly and roughly of you. They spoke that way of Me, should they not speak that way of you? The more you get to be like Me, the more they’re going to think that way of you. They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. But I didn’t claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in Me. Hallelujah." (Kenneth Copeland, Take Time to Pray, Believer’s Voice of Victory 15, 2 (February 1987): 9.
· Copeland asserts, "What [why] does God have to pay the price for this thing? He has to have a man that is like that first one. It’s got to be a man. He’s got to be all man. He cannot be a God and come storming in here will attributes and dignities that are not common to man. He can’t do that. It’s not legal." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017.
· Benny Hinn writes, "And let me add this: Had the Holy Spirit not been with Jesus, He would have sinned. That’s right, it was the Holy Spirit that was the power that kept Him pure. He was not only sent from heaven, but He was called the Son of Man—and as such He was capable of sinning…Without the Holy Ghost, Jesus would have never have made it…Can you imagine Christ headed for the grave, knowing He would remain there forever, if the Holy Ghost would change His mind about raising Him from the dead?" (Benny Hinn, Good Morning, Holy Spirit (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1990), 135-36.
· Copeland promises, "Here’s where we’re gonna depart from ordinary church: Now, you see, God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus—these faith-filled words that framed the image that’s in Him…He can’t just walk onto the earth and say, "Let it be!" because He doesn’t have the right. He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world that was blockin’ every way that he possibly could." (Kenneth Copeland, The Image of God in You III (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989), audiotape #01-1403, side 2. He continues by adding, "God was making promises to Jesus, and Jesus wasn’t even there. But, you see, God deals with things that are not yet as though they already were. That’s the way He gets them to come to pass." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017.
Atonement Atrocities:
Recreation on the cross. On the cross, Jesus was recreated from divine to demonic, taking on the very nature of Satan.
· Benny Hinn claimed that the Holy Ghost personally told him: "Ladies and gentlemen, the serpent is a symbol of Satan. Jesus Christ knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him. You say, ‘What did you say? What blasphemy is this?’ No, you hear this! He did not take my sin; He became my sin. Sin is the nature of hell. Sin is what made Satan…It was sin that made Satan. Jesus said, "I’ll be sin! I’ll go to the lowest place! I’ll go to the origin of it! I won’t just take part in it, I’ll be the totality of it!" When Jesus became sin, sir, He took it from A to Z and said, "No more!" Think about this: He became flesh, that flesh might become like Him. He became death, so dying man can live. He became sin, so sinners can be righteous in Him. He became one with the nature of Satan, so all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God." (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn program on TBN (December 15, 1990).
· Kenneth Hagin also claims that Jesus Christ took on the nature of Satan, "[s]piritual death means something more than separation from God. Spiritual death also means having Satan’s nature…Jesus tasted death—spiritual death—for every man." (Kenneth E. Hagin, The Name of Jesus (Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, 1981), 31.
· Fredrick Price alleges that Jesus Christ was re-created spiritually—not on the cross, but rather in the Garden of Gethsemane: "Somewhere between the time He [Jesus] was nailed to the cross and when He was in the Garden of Gethsemane—somewhere in there—He died spiritually. Personally, I believe it was while He was in the garden." Price, who was reared in a Jehovah’s Witness environment mimics the Mormon Apostle James E. Talmage, who taught precisely the same thing in his book Jesus the Christ. (Frederick K. C. Price, Identification #3 (Inglewood, CA: Ever Increasing Faith Ministries, 1980), tape #FP545, side 1.
· Copeland says that Jesus became a sign of Satan when He was hanging on the cross: "The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at the moment that He did so, He cried, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken Me?" You don’t know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That used to bug me. I said, "Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there—the sign of Satan? Why didn’t you put a lamb on that pole?" And the Lord said, "Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross." He said, "I accepted, in My own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017, side 2.
Redemption in hell. In the words of one Faith teacher, "Satan conquered Jesus upon the Cross." Proponents of Faith theology say that Jesus endured three days and nights of unimaginable abuse at the hands of Satan and his hordes of demons in hell. This was God’s payment to Satan so that He could get back into a universe from which He had been banished.
· According to Frederick Price: "Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the two thieves could have paid your price. No, the punishment was to go into hell itself and to serve time in hell separated from God…Satan and all the demons of hell thought that they had Him bound and they threw a net over Jesus and dragged Him down to the very pit of hell itself to serve our sentence." (Frederick K.C. Price, Ever Increasing Faith Messanger (June 1980), 7.
· Kenneth Hagin’s version: "He [Jesus] tasted spiritual death for every man. And His spirit and inner man went to hell in my place. Can’t you see that? Physical death wouldn’t remove your sins. He’s tasted death for every man. He’s talking about tasting spiritual death." (Kenneth E. Hagin, How Jesus Obtained His Name (Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, n.d.), tape #44H01, side 1.
· Kenneth Copeland’s version: "When Jesus cried, ‘It is finished!’ He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne…Jesus’ death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption." (Kenneth Copeland, Jesus—Our Lord of Glory, Believer’s Voice of Victory 10, 4 (April 1982):3.
· Jan Crouch, the wife of TBN president Paul Crouch, approvingly recited the following words from Paul Billheimer’s book during a live communion service aired on TBN: "Because He was "made sin," impregnated with sin, and became the very essence of sin, on the cross He was banished from God’s presence as a loathsome thing. He and sin were made synonymous…[I]t was not sufficient for Christ to offer up only His physical life on the cross. His pure human spirit had not "descend" into hell…His spirit must not only descend into hell, but into the lowest hell…The Father turned Him over, not only to the agony and death of Calvary, but to the satanic torturers of His pure spirit as part of the just dessert of the sin of all the race. As long as Christ was "the essence of sin" he was at Satan’s mercy in that place of torment…While Christ identified with sin, Satan and the hosts of hell ruled over Him as over any lost sinner. During that seemingly endless age in the nether abyss of death, Satan did with Him as he would, and all hell was "in carnival." (Paul Billheimer, Destined for the Throne, special edition for TBN (Fort Washington, PA: Christian Literature Crusade, 1988 [orig. 1975]), 83-84. Quoted by Jan Crouch during the "Praise the Lord" program TBN (August 20, 1987).
Let take a moment to retrace our steps. We began this section with Jesus hanging on a cross, where, according to Faith theology, He was recreated from a divine to a demonic being. At this point the Trinity was destroyed and the deity of Christ utterly demolished. According to the Faith teachers, the Lord Jesus’ passion on the cross proved insufficient to redeem humankind, an so He had to be trapped and hauled down to the very pit of hell by Satan. It is there, while Jesus is tortured and tormented by a smiling Satan and a host of cackling demons, that we pick up the story.
Jesus’ Rebirth in hell.
· Copeland explains that, "[I]n hell He [Jesus] suffered for you and for me. The Bible says hell was made for Satan and his angles. It was not made for men. Satan was holding the Son of God there illegally…The trap was set for Satan and Jesus was the bait." (Kenneth Copeland, Walking in the Realm of the Miraculous (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1979), 77. Satan blew it on a technicality, according to Faith theology, because Satan had dragged Jesus into hell illegally. As Copeland puts it, "The Devil forgot to take into consideration that Jesus hadn’t sinned Himself but, rather, had merely become sin as a result of the sin of others." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017, side 2. Satan and every demon in hell tortured Christ’s allegedly "emaciated, poured out, little, wormy spirit" without legal right. (Kenneth Copeland, Believer’s Voice of Victory program (April 21, 1991). And this was exactly the opening God had been looking for. Seizing the moment, He spoke His faith-filled words into the bowels of the earth, and suddenly—"[t]hat Word of the living God went down into that pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life. He began to look like something the devil had never seen before. He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex His spiritual muscles…Jesus was born again—the first-born from the dead." (Kenneth Copeland, The Price of it All, Believer’s Voice of Victory 19, 9 (September 1991):4-6. Kenneth Copeland called upon revelation knowledge when he said: "The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, ‘Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.’ He said, ‘Think this way—a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.’ And I threw my Bible down…like that. I said, ‘What?’ He said, ‘A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.’ He said, ‘You are the very image, the very copy of that one.’ I said, ‘Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?’ He said, ‘Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could’ve done the same thing, ‘cause you’re a reborn man too." (Kenneth Copeland, Substitution and Identification (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989), tape #00-0202, side 2.
· Benny Hinn, too, received some "revelation knowledge" on the "rebirth" of Christ in hell: "My, you know, whoosh! The Holy Ghost is just showing me some stuff. I’m getting dizzy! I’m telling you the truth—it’s, it’s just heavy right now on me…He’s [referring to Jesus] in the underworld now. God isn’t there, the Holy Ghost isn’t there, and the Bible says He was begotten. Do you know what the word begotten means? It means reborn. Do you want another shocker? Have you been begotten? So was He. Don’t let anyone deceive you. Jesus was reborn. You say, ‘What are you talking about?’…He was reborn. He had to be reborn…If He was not reborn, I could not be reborn, I would never be reborn. How can I face Jesus and say, "Jesus, You went through everything I’ve gone through, except the new birth?" (Benny Hinn, Our Position ‘In Christ,’ Part 1 (Orlando, FL: Orlando Christian Center, 1991), videotape #TV-254.
· Jan Crouch read Paul Billheimer’s commentary on TBN stating, "[I]n order to be made alive unto God and restored to fellowship with His Father, He [Jesus] had to be reborn—for He had become the very essence of sin. Since sin had totally alienated Him from the Father, the only way He could be restored to fellowship with the Father was through a new birth to new life." (Paul Billheimer, Destined for the Throne, special edition for TBN (Fort Washington, PA: Christian Literature Crusade, 1988 [orig. 1975]), 83-84. Quoted by Jan Crouch during the "Praise the Lord" program TBN (August 20, 1987).
Reincarnation. Jesus was reincarnated from demonic to divine and then emerged from hell as an incarnation of God. When you are born again, you too are reincarnated from demonic to divine, becoming "as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth."
According to Faith Teachers, Jesus regained His divinity the moment He was reborn in hell. Commenting on Hinn’s remarks about Jesus defeating Satan in the underworld,
· Paul Crouch adds, "That’s when His [Jesus’] divinity returned." (Paul Crouch, Praise-a-Thon program on TBN (November 6, 1990).
· Hagin states it, "Every man who has been born again is an incarnation and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth." (Kenneth E. Hagin, The Incarnation, The Word of Faith 13, 12 (December 1980):14. The concept of incarnation makes sense only if a person existed prior to having a physical body. And while the Bible clearly declares Christ to be preexistent, nowhere in Scripture do we find the concept of human preexistence. In fact, human preexistence remains a concept belonging to such pseudo-Christian systems such as Mormonism

Heresy---John Hagee---"In defence of Israel"

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Wednesday, November 26, 2008

HAGEE'S most recent heresy---In defence of Israel
Feb 22, 2008 Review of 'In Defence of Israel'Review of In Defense of Israel by John Hageehttp://www.biblewheel.com/RR/Hagee_Defense_of_Israel.aspJohn Hagee has one of the largest ministries in the country. Here is how it is described on his website www.JohnHagee.org :Dr. John C. Hagee is the founder and Senior Pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, a non-denominational evangelical church with more than 18,000 active members. [He] is the President and C.E.O. of John Hagee Ministries which telecasts his national radio and television ministry carried in America on 160 T.V. stations, 50 radio stations, eight networks and can be seen weekly in 99 million homes. ... [He] is the author of 10 major books published by Thomas Nelson Publishers.Any man preaching the Bible into 99 million homes bears a massive responsibility before God and his fellow human beings to accurately and clearly proclaim the truth. Scripture warns that "not many" should set themselves up as "masters" or teachers, for in so doing they risk a "greater condemnation" (James 3:1).Before discussing Hagee's apostasy from the Christian faith, it is important for the reader to know that I stand firm in my support of Israel for humanitarian and political reasons. I love the Jewish people, delight in their music, literature and culture, and deeply appreciate that God used them to bring forth Jesus the Messiah and the Holy Bible that proclaims the Gospel of His Messiahship "to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile." I condemn any form of anti-semitism as anti-christian and a sure sign of spiritual alienation from God. But I also know that you do not "show love and support" to Israel by denying that Jesus Christ is their Messiah, which is exactly what John Hagee has done.In his book In Defense of Israel (2007), beginning in the section called "The Jews did not Reject Jesus as Messiah" (p. 132) John Hagee relentlessly twisted Scripture in his attempt to prove that Jesus Christ did not come "to be Messiah to the Jews." His denial of Jesus as the Christ (Messiah) cannot be overlooked as a mere "slip of his pen" because he repeated his assertion "seven ways from Sunday" as seen in this sample of seven quotes from his book:• If God intended for Jesus to be the Messiah of Israel, why didn't he authorize Jesus to use supernatural signs to prove he was God's Messiah, just as Moses had done? (p. 137)• Jesus refused to produce a sign ... because it was not the Father's will, nor his, to be Messiah. (p 138)• If Jesus wanted to be Messiah, why did he repeatedly tell his disciples and followers to "tell no one" about his supernatural accomplishments? (p. 139)• The Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah; it was Jesus who was refusing to be the Messiah to the Jews. (p. 140)• They wanted him to be their Messiah, but he flatly refused. (p. 141)• He refused to be their Messiah, choosing instead to be the Savior of the world (p. 143)• Jesus rejected to the last detail the role of Messiah in word or deed. (p. 145)John Hagee's words directly contradict the central message of the entire New Testament. Indeed, John Hagee's words directly contradict the fundamental declaration that defines the Christian Faith, which is that Jesus is the Messiah (i.e. the Christ). This is what Peter declared in his first sermon to thousands of his fellow Jews gathered at Pentecost (Acts 2:36):Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ (Messiah).Likewise, this was the first thing Saul, the Jew from Tarsus, proclaimed to his fellow Jews in the synagogues immediately after the scales fell from his eyes (Acts 9:20-23):And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God. But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests? But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ. And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:Scripture declares that Saul, who soon would be known as the Apostle Paul, preached and proved to his Jewish audience that Jesus is Messiah. The Gospel itself is called the "Gospel of Christ" or in Jewish terms, the Gospel of the Messiah! This fact is so very elementary it seems almost foolish to belabour it. That any genuinely Christian teacher could err on this point is inconceiveable because the error concerns the primal definition of Christianity itself. Scripture therefore places this error under the greatest possible condemnation:Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. -- 1 John 2:22Liar! Antichrist! There is no mistaking the apostasy here. The word "Christ" literally means "Messiah." The New Testament could be faithfully translated with all references to Jesus Christ rendered as "Jesus the Messiah." Indeed, the Complete Jewish Bible translates the verse above as "Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that Yeshua is the Messiah?"How then is it possible that John Hagee, who has been preaching and teaching the "Bible" for over forty years, could suddenly turn and deny that Jesus is the Messiah? Is it possible that we are misunderstanding what he really meant? The unfortunate answer is that Hagee left no room for misunderstanding. He repeated his heresies over and over again. Let us begin with this quote from pages 137-138:If God intended for Jesus to be the Messiah of Israel, why didn't he authorize Jesus to use supernatural signs to prove he was God's Messiah, just as Moses had done? The Jews, knowing of Moses's signs to Israel, asked for a supernatural sign that Jesus was indeed their Messiah. Jesus answered:No sign will be given...except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. -- Matthew 12:39-40Jesus refused to give a sign. He only compared himself with the prophet Jonah, who carried the message of repentance from God to the Gentiles in Nineveh.This one quote has many errors. The first is Hagee's failure to recognize that the "sign of Jonah" was the ultimate miraculous sign upon which all Christianity stands, namely, the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is the supreme sign that God gave to prove that Jesus is the Messiah. Hagee ignored it as if it were nothing; his six page Index doesn't even have an entry for "resurrection." He also erred in his assertion that God didn't "authorize Jesus to use supernatural signs to prove he was God's Messiah."This directly contradicts the words preached by the Apostle Peter at Pentecost (Acts 2:22-23)Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:Hagee's claim also contradicts Christ's answer to the Jews when they demanded to know if He was Messiah (John 10:24-33):Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Messiah, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.Christ cited the "good works" of His miraculous signs as proof that He is Messiah. John's Gospel was designed around seven of those signs, beginning with the miraculous transformation of water into wine and culminating in the resurrection of Lazarus from the dead after which the Jews, predictably, plotted again to murder him.The Apostle John drove the final nail into the coffin of Hagee's heresy when he summed up the purpose of his Gospel (John 20:30-31):And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.Peter, Paul, and John are but three of the New Testament Jews who declared to their fellow Jews that Jesus is the Messiah and the Son of God. Yet Hagee denies that Jesus ever claimed to be the Messiah, and with that false presupposition attempts to exonerate "the Jews" by asking "How can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered?" (p. 136).He repeatedly denies that the "Jews as a people" were in any way responsible for the death of Christ. Peter's pentecostal sermon quoted above provides another refuation of this error. The Apostle addressed the whole crowd of multiplied thousands, saying "Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem" (Acts 2:14), and then accused them all saying "God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Messiah."He declared them all guilty of killing Jesus and contrary to Hagee, told those thousands upon thousands of first century Jews that Jesus was not only "Lord" but also MESSIAH. This was the declaration of all the Jews who believed: Jesus is Messiah! This pricked the crowd to their heart, and about three thousand Jews were saved that day. Yet in the face of all this biblical evidence, John Hagee continues to deny that Jesus is the Messiah to the Jews, saying "The people wanted him to be their Messiah, but he flatly refused" (p. 139).It is a most unfortunate fact that Hagee's errors cannot be discounted as innocent mistakes. In his quote of Matthew 12 in the tan box above, he willfully omitted Scripture that contradicted his thesis. The true reason that "Jesus refused to give a sign" in that particular passage is revealed in the text that Hagee deliberately hid from his readers (Matthew 12:38-41, NKJV):Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.The words Hagee quoted are underlined. He ripped them out of their context in which they are bracketed before and after by Christ's rebuke of the "evil and adulterous generation" that would be condemned by the wicked "men of Nineveh" in the Day of Judgment. Matthew 12 is but one of the many texts in which Christ condemned the whole generation of Jews that rejected him, not just "the high priest and his circle of religious conspirators" as Hagee falsely asserts (p. 128).Hagee attempted as similar ruse on page 138 (emphasis added):When Jesus went on trial, Herod "had desired for a long time to see Him...and he hoped to see some miracle [sign] done by Him" (Luke 23:8). Jesus refused to produce a sign for the national leadership of Israel in an attempt to prove he was the Messiah because it was not the Father's will, nor his, to be the Messiah. Jesus's repeated response to the Jewish people who urged him to be their Messiah was, "My kindgom is not of this world" (John 18:36)This sheds some light on the source of Hagee's error. It seems he has wholeheartedly adopted the unbiblical definition of the Messiah promoted by the unbelieving Jews who deny Christ on the pretext that He failed to defeat the Romans and set up an earthly ethnic kingom on some dusty Middle East real estate. Thus Hagee rejects Jesus as the Christ because His Kingdom "is not of this world." This is confirmed on page 139 (emphasis added):If Jesus wanted to be Messiah, why did he repeatedly tell his disciples and followers to "tell no one" about his supernatural accomplishments? Think about it! If the man were trying to gain national attention to rally the support of the general public for the overthrow of mighty Rome, he would not go around the country saying "Tell no one!"So there it is. Though he never explicitly stated his definition, Hagee used the word "Messiah" to designate nothing but a conquering Jew who would "smash Rome" and "usher in an era of universal peace" (p. 141). Since Jesus did not come to do this, He was "not the Messiah" by Hagee's heretical definition. Thus the Jews are completely exonerated for rejecting Christ, for indeed, "The Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah; it was Jesus who was refusing to be the Messiah to the Jews" (p. 140).It is a tragedy that Hagee wrote as if he never understood a single word of the New Testament proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus the Messiah. How else could he assert that there is a distinction between Jesus as Saviour and Jesus as Messiah as he did when he wrote "He refused to be their Messiah, choosing instead to be the Savior of the world" (p. 143)?He appears to know less of the Gospel than any ten year old child who has recited Luke 2:11 in a Christmans pageant:For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.These are the apostate antichrist teachings of John Hagee. He explicitly and repeatedly denies that Jesus came to be the Messiah to the Jews. John Hagee needs to repent. All faithful and orthodox Christians need to warn others of his false teachings.P

Heresy----gathering the Jews for their SLAUGHTER

2008-11-27T15:09:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Gathering the Jews for the slaughter
Feb 23, 2008 GATHERING IN THE JEWS FOR THEIR SLAUGHTERGATHERING IN THE JEWS FOR THEIR SLAUGHTERORHow John Hagee, and Pat Boone corral the Jews!I was channel surfing the cable the other day, when I stumbled across that GLUTTON of EVANGELICAL GLUTTONS,--------John Hagee----Glutton of food and destruction, and Pat Boone. Here was that Great Evangelical HERITIC of which the Apostle Paul warned-----2 Tim 4:3-43 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fableAND2 Peter 2:33 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.AND2 Thess 2:10-1110 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:--------speaking from his multi-million dollar television studio in a PLEA for MONEY to help in the immigration of JEWS from former Soviet Satellite territories, to Israel. Many of these JEWS suffer OLD AGE, and debilitating physical impairment-------AND WHY would John, and Pat do this seemingly merciful deed?-----to hasten the fulfillment of BIBLE PROPHECY!You see; In modern Evangelical Pre-Tribulation eschatology, the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST will be hastened by the mass return of JEWS into Israel. But what of the FUTURE of these same MIGRANT JEWS? These Jews are gathering into Israel, NOT FOR THEIR EVANGELIZATION into the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but for their prophetic SLAUGHTER-------Isa 28:15-1715 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.ANDZech 13:88 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.KJVZech 13:8-14:18 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. --------------SO--------THERE YOU HAVE IT! John Hagee, and Pat Boone, are “HELPING GOD” to bring these elderly, and sick Jews of the former Soviet Union, to the land of Israel, so that they can suffer the slaughter of TWO THIRDS of the apostate Israeli population. NOT A WORD of the Salvation of Messiah. Not a WORD of Matt. 24Matt 24:16-2116 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall beKJVSO---------Let’s see now-------“BRING SOME JEWS TO ISRAEL”------“DON’T TELL THEM ABOUT MATTHEW 24” ------where it tells them to “FLEE”-------ISRAEL????SO NOW--------------TWO THIRDS of these SICK, OLD JEWS, can be slaughtered in the Gog/Magog war, followed by the GREAT TRIBULATION-------and Hagee, along with Pat Boone [you remember Pat; he’s the one who put lyrics to the theme from Exodus]---will hasten the punishment of apostate Judaism, just so they can RULE AND REIGN with Christ a bit sooner. OH, and let’s not forget-------while these SICK OLD JEWS are GETTING THEIR’S---------John, and Pat have been RAPTURED, and are receiving their crowns at the JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST! Isn’t this just wonderful eschatology? Doesn’t it just make you glad that you don’t have to be here to hear the agonizing SCREAMS of TORTURE and RAPE being perpetrated on these SICK, OLD PEOPLE?? I just know that these un-regenerated souls will cry out from hell--------“THANK YOU JOHN, and THANK YOU PAT, and THANK YOU FAITHFULL PRAYER PARTNERS for this wonderful ETERNITY that you have expedited”, and all in the name of JESUS.----WOW.The TWISTED SICKNESS of this is beyond my ability to express. It’s just a representation of how utterly apostate the American Church has become.Danny McDowell

"TRADITION" the pollutant of TRUTH

2008-11-27T15:08:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

TRADITION----the pollutant of TRUTH
In the examination and scrutiny of the Christian faith, we should bring EVERY tradition----celebration----practice----or formality under the microscopic view of the New Tewstament. Now matter WHAT IT IS----or how important it has become to ourselves, friends, or family members---------If the New Testament does not support it-----IT MUST GO !Nov 21, 2007 TRADITION---the pollutant of TRUTHDanny McDowell Matt.15:3-6----"made of none effect by your TRADITION" Mark 7:9---"that ye may keep your TRADITION". Mark 7:13-----"TRADITION of more effect". II Thess.3:6----"not after TRADITION received from us". I Peter 1:18-----"vain conversations of TRADITION".

"TRUTH"the Christian identity

2008-11-27T15:04:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

"TRUTH" the Christian identity
Nov 21, 2007 TRUTH----The Christian IdentityDanny McDowellJohn 1:14-1514 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.John 1:17-1817 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.John 3:21-2221 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.John 4:23-2523 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.John 8:31-3331 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.John 16:13-1513 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.John 17:17-2017 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.John 18:37-3837 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.THE BENEFIT OF TRUTHJohn 14:5-75 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.THE CONSEQUENCESOF HATING THE TRUTH2 Thess 2:10-1610 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.TWISTING THE TRUTHRom 1:18-1918 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;THE ORIGIN OF ALL LIESJohn 8:44-4844 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.TRADITIONSMatt 15:2-102 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.Mark 7:7-147 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.2 Thess 3:6-76 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.1 Peter 1:18-2418 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever

The TRUTH about the PASSION WEEK

2008-11-27T15:00:00.000-08:00

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

The TRUTH about the PASSION WEEK
MARK 11----THE PASSIONDanny McDowellMark 11:1-12:1Mark 1111:1 And when they came nigh to Jerusalem, unto Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount of Olives, he sendeth forth two of his disciples,2 And saith unto them, Go your way into the village over against you: and as soon as ye be entered into it, ye shall find a colt tied, whereon never man sat; loose him, and bring him.3 And if any man say unto you, Why do ye this? say ye that the Lord hath need of him; and straightway he will send him hither.4 And they went their way, and found the colt tied by the door without in a place where two ways met; and they loose him.5 And certain of them that stood there said unto them, What do ye, loosing the colt?6 And they said unto them even as Jesus had commanded: and they let them go.DAY ONE-------ABIB 10 LAMB SELECTEDSABBATH-----SATURDAYTHE TRIUMPHAL ENTRY7 And they brought the colt to Jesus, and cast their garments on him; and he sat upon him.8 And many spread their garments in the way: and others cut down branches off the trees, and strawed them in the way.9 And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.11 And Jesus entered into Jerusalem, and into the temple: and when he had looked round about upon all things, and now the eventide was come, he went out unto Bethany with the twelve.DAY TWO----SECOND ENTRY1st DAY OF THE WEEK------SUNDAYTHE MORNING -------- 11 ABIB12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.CASTS OUT THE MONEY CHANGERSSTILL DAY TWO15 And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;16 And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.17 And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.18 And the scribes and chief priests heard it, and sought how they might destroy him: for they feared him, because all the people was astonished at his doctrine.19 And when even was come, he went out of the city.DAY THREE2nd DAY OF THE WEEK------MONDAYTHE MORNING------12 ABIB20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.STILL DAY THREE-----THIRD ENTRY27 And they come again to Jerusalem: and as he was walking in the temple, there come to him the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders,28 And say unto him, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority to do these things?29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things.30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.31 And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then did ye not believe him?32 But if we shall say, Of men; they feared the people: for all men counted John, that he was a prophet indeed.33 And they answered and said unto Jesus, We cannot tell. And Jesus answering saith unto them, Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things.STILL DAY THREE-------THE OLIVETTE DISCOURSEMark 13:1-5Mark 1313:1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?ON TO MARK 14Mark 14:1-15:1Mark 14STILL THE THIRD DAY------IN THE EVENING14:1 After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.4 And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made?5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her.6 And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me.7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.8 She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.10 And Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve, went unto the chief priests, to betray him unto them.11 And when they heard it, they were glad, and promised to give him money. And he sought how he might conveniently betray him.THE FOURTH DAY-----“CONCERNING THE PASSOVER”3rd DAY OF THE WEEK------TEUSDAYTHE EVENING-----13 ABIB12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.STILL THE FOURTH DAY-----IN THE EVENING17 And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.18 And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me.19 And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I?20 And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish.21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.22 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.26 And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.27 And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.28 But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee.29 But Peter said unto him, Although all shall be offended, yet will not I.30 And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.31 But he spake the more vehemently, If I should die with thee, I will not deny thee in any wise. Likewise also said they all.32 And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.33 And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.37 And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.39 And again he went away, and prayed, and spake the same words.40 And when he returned, he found them asleep again, (for their eyes were heavy,) neither wist they what to answer him.41 And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.42 Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand.43 And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.44 And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead him away safely.45 And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him, and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.46 And they laid their hands on him, and took him.47 And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.48 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Are ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and with staves to take me?49 I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.50 And they all forsook him, and fled.51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.TRIAL # !53 And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.54 And Peter followed him afar off, even into the palace of the high priest: and he sat with the servants, and warmed himself at the fire.55 And the chief priests and all the council sought for witness against Jesus to put him to death; and found none.56 For many bare false witness against him, but their witness agreed not together.57 And there arose certain, and bare false witness against him, saying,58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.59 But neither so did their witness agree together.60 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.65 And some began to spit on him, and to cover his face, and to buffet him, and to say unto him, Prophesy: and the servants did strike him with the palms of their hands.66 And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:67 And when she saw Peter warming himself, she looked upon him, and said, And thou also wast with Jesus of Nazareth.68 But he denied, saying, I know not, neither understand I what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.69 And a maid saw him again, and began to say to them that stood by, This is one of them.70 And he denied it again. And a little after, they that stood by said again to Peter, Surely thou art one of them: for thou art a Galilaean, and thy speech agreeth thereto.71 But he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak.72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.THE FIFTH DAY------the Day of Preperation4th DAY OF THE WEEK-----WEDNESDAY14 ABIBMark 15:1-16:115:1 And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate.2 And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it.3 And the chief priests accused him of many things: but he answered nothing.4 And Pilate asked him again, saying, Answerest thou nothing? behold how many things they witness against thee.5 But Jesus yet answered nothing; so that Pilate marvelled.6 Now at that feast he released unto them one prisoner, whomsoever they desired.7 And there was one named Barabbas, which lay bound with them that had made insurrection with him, who had committed murder in the insurrection.8 And the multitude crying aloud began to desire him to do as he had ever done unto them.9 But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews?10 For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.11 But the chief priests moved the people, that he should rather release Barabbas unto them.12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.14 Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.15 And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified.16 And the soldiers led him away into the hall, called Praetorium; and they call together the whole band.17 And they clothed him with purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head,18 And began to salute him, Hail, King of the Jews!19 And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him.20 And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him.21 And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.22 And they bring him unto the place Golgotha, which is, being interpreted, The place of a skull.23 And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not.24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS.27 And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left.28 And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.29 And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days,30 Save thyself, and come down from the cross.31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down.37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;41(Who also, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered unto him;) and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem.STILL THE FIFTH DAY------NOT THE SABBATH/PASSOVER42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,43 Joseph of Arimathaea, and honourable counseller, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre.47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid.Mark 16:1 - Luke 1:1Mark 16THE SIXTH DAY [PASSOVER] WAS PASSED5th DAY OF THE WEEK--------THURSDAY15 ABIB-----PASSOVER HIGH SABBATHNOW THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ENTRY6th DAY OF THE WEEK------FRIDAY-----DAY OF PREPERATION FORWEEKLY SABBATH16:1 And when the Sabbath[ PASSOVER] was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.See Luke 23:54-56EIGHTH DAY FROM ENTRY7th DAY OF THE WEEK----WEEKLY SABBATH----SATURDAYLuke 23:55-24:155 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.THE NINTH DAY FROM ENTRY1st DAY OF THE WEEK----SUNDAY2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.AFTER JESUS WAS RISEN------JOHN 20:19 Now when Jesus was risen, early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.13 And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them.14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.20 And they went forth, and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

The BREAD OF THE COVENANT

2008-11-27T14:59:00.000-08:00

November 26, 2008

The BREAD OF THE COVENANT
Jan 30, 2008 The Bread of the New CovenantDanny McDowellNT:740artos (ar'-tos); from NT:142; bread (as raised) or a loaf:KJV - (shew-) bread, loaf.(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.)In every reference of the New Testament regarding the NEW COVENANT, the greek word ARTOS is used exclusively. There is a very PERTINENT REASON for the use of this word “ARTOS”. I will discuss this reasoning as we conclude this studyARTOSMatt 4:3-53 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.KJVMatt 7:9-109 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?KJVMatt 16:7-97 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?KJVMark 6:36-3836 Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.37 He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?Mark 14:22-2322 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread [ARTOS], and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.Luke 22:19-2019 And he took bread [ARTOS], and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.This is the BREAD [ARTOS] of the New Covenant. In every reference to the Lord’s Table----THIS WORD “ARTOS” is used without exception.This following reference is clearly an un-ceremonial application of the word.Luke 24:30-3630 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.KJVNotice BELOW the vital connection between BREAD and WINE in this familiar COMMUNION PASSAGE.Luke 22:19-2119 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.KJVTHE BREAKING OF BREAD WITHOUT THE COMMUNION CUP IS SIMPLY A COMMUNAL MEAL AND HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THE LORD’S TABLE !Acts 20:7-127 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.8 And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.11 When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.KJVSome insist that this “breaking of bread” was the ceremonial TABLE OF THE LORD. A simple exercise in logic should dismiss such a notion.Take a close look at this clearly defined TABLE OF THE LORD!Cor 10:16-1816 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.KJV1 Cor 11:23-3123 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.KJVTHE CREMONIAL BREADNT:106azumos (ad'-zoo-mos); from NT:1 (as a negative particle) and NT:2219; unleavened, i.e. (figuratively) uncorrupted; (in the neutral plural) specially (by implication) the Passover week:KJV - unleavened (bread).(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, IncThis is the “CEREMONIAL BREAD” of Passover. This is UNLEAVENED bread. Furthermore-----this UNLEAVENED BREAD is NEVER used in reference to the “BREAD” of the New Covenant-------NOT ONCE !Matt 26:17-2217 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread [AZUMOS] the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.20 Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.21 And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.We must clarify that Jesus was NOT serving the “Passover” on this evening----but rather, was beginning the PREPARATION [the Day of Preparation] for the Passover. This was the evening of 13/14 Aviv-------the day the Passover would be killed. The FOLLOWING EVENING would be the Passover.Matt 26:26-2726 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread [ARTOS], and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.KJVNT:740artos (ar'-tos); from NT:142; bread (as raised) or a loaf:KJV - (shew-) bread, loaf.(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.)Luke 22:1-822:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread [AZUMOS] drew nigh, which is called the Passover.2 And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.5 And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money.6 And he promised, and sought opportunity to betray him unto them in the absence of the multitude.7 Then came the day of unleavened bread [azumos], when the passover must be killed.KJVNT:106azumos (ad'-zoo-mos); from NT:1 (as a negative particle) and NT:2219; unleavened, i.e. (figuratively) uncorrupted; (in the neutral plural) specially (by implication) the Passover week:KJV - unleavened (bread).(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.)1 Cor 5:8-98 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.In Paul’s plea for the “unleavened bread of sincerity” in this passage; some would attempt to utilize this phrase “unleavened bread” to justify the use of AZUMOS in celebration of the Lord’s Table, however, Strongs reference 9999 clearly tells us the KJV translators added the word “UNLEAVENED” to the passage for their own understanding in the sentence, and that NO SUCH WORD EXISTS in the original language of this passage. Therefore, when Paul refers to “entering the “FEAST” [the Lord’s Table at Passover] he simply states-----“let us keep the feast [the Lord’s Table] with the “BREAD OF SINCERITY”-----and NEVER SUGGESTS that unleavened bread should be used. The only use of the word “leaven” is in typology to our own sins, and is admonished to be PURGED FROM OUR CONCIENCE prior to our participation in the BODY and BLOOD of JESUSIt is sometimes suggested that the scriptural “BREAKING OF BREAD” is synonomous to the Lord’s Table as in:Acts 2:42-4742 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,It is clearly ERROR to believe that every mention of BREAKING OF BREAD in the New Testament is synonymous with the Lord’s Table. The term “BREAKING OF BREAD” was simply a common term for HAVING A MEAL IN FELLOWSHIP. Let us never forget that “ABSENT THE WINE”, it is not possible that this reference to “breaking of bread” should be speaking of the communion table.This “breaking of bread” is also seen as Jesus reveals himself to his decuples after his resurrection.Luke 24:30-3630 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.KJVActs 20:7-127 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.8 And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in himCONRAST.11 When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.KJVLook at the STARK CONTRAST between these two passages regarding the BREAKING OF BREAD1 Cor 10:16-1816 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.KJV1 Cor 11:23-3123 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.KJVMay we now come to the CRUX of this study. What does it matter that we celebrate the Lord’s Table this way or that? Would you not agree that so many of our beliefs and celebrations have been corrupted in the passage of TIME. Have we no ENEMY to steal at opportune times? Is IGNORANCE truly a virtue? Are we AGENTS OF TRADITION? What is the importance of ORTHODOXY in this matter? May I take you to Isaiah 53:“FOR THE LORD HATH LAID UPON HIM THE INIQUITIES OF US ALL”This is the MATTER for us. The leaven of SIN was placed upon Christ-------OUR SIN ! That’s why it important to RESIST the TRADITIONS OF MEN, and to HOLD FAST to the teachings of the New Testament. We at the New Testament Fellowship of Winston Salem, North Carolina----celebrate the Lord’s table yearly at Passover-------as did the New Testament Church for nearly TWO HUNDRED YEARS following that initial Table set by our Master. It’s important-----It really is! It’s important to recognize that -------OUR SIN--------was laid upon him!Danny McDowell

Welcome to the HOUSE OF GOD

2008-11-27T14:55:00.000-08:00

, November 26, 2008

Welcome to the HOUSE OF GOD
Nov 21, 2007 THE HOUSE OF GOD - THE TEMPLE OF GODDanny McDowell1 Cor 3:9-189 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.1 Cor 6:19-7:119 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.Eph 2:19-2219 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.1 Tim 3:14-1614 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.Heb 10:20-2420 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;21 And having an high priest over the house of God;22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)1 Peter 4:17-1817 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?THE CHURCHRom 16:5-165 Likewise, greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.6 Greet Mary, who bestowed much labour on us.7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.8 Greet Amplias my beloved in the Lord.9 Salute Urbane, our helper in Christ, and Stachys my beloved.10 Salute Apelles approved in Christ. Salute them which are of Aristobulus' household.11 Salute Herodion my kinsman. Greet them that be of the household of Narcissus, which are in the Lord.12 Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa, who labour in the Lord. Salute the beloved Persis, which laboured much in the Lord.13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.14 Salute Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brethren which are with them.15 Salute Philologus, and Julia, Nereus, and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints which are with them.16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.1 Cor 16:15-2015 I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)16 That ye submit yourselves unto such, and to every one that helpeth with us, and laboureth.17 I am glad of the coming of Stephanas and Fortunatus and Achaicus: for that which was lacking on your part they have supplied.18 For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.Col 4:15 - 1 Thess 1:115 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.16 And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.17 And say to Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.18 The salutation by the hand of me Paul. Remember my bonds. Grace be with you. Amen.Philem 2-42 And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:3 Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.Heb 3:4-74 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.CONTEMPT FOR GOD’S HOUSEHeb 6:4-64 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.Heb 10:29-3029 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?Matt 24:22 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.